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Slickkon
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Posts: 15
Post Fiat Advance EX
on: September 8, 2017 (GMT)

Hi all,

Just purchased the torque pro and fiat advanced plugin full version.

Using a elm327 usb to OTG on Samsung S6.

When accessing normal PID on torque, can see rpm, timing advance, boost pressure etc. However, all the Fiat plugin/PIDs all not working. Take note when connected to fiatecuscan elm327 also working

I hope you experienced people can help newbie like me please. I am looking to log knock sensor voltage etc. Which is not available in other program.

Using on car 2009 Fiat bravo t-Jet

Thank you all in advance!

Kind regards,
Mat

cintakc
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Posts: 1661
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 8, 2017 (GMT)

plugin Fiat is made for the CAN protocol ISO 15765 29/500
by what protocol do you connect
this can be seen on the Adapter Status tab

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 8, 2017 (GMT)

Hi Cintakc,

I put on automatic fast protocol search.

I will try and feedback to you. Thank you kindly!

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 9, 2017 (GMT)

Hi Friend,

No luck, keeps searching for protocol after a while it gives up and uses ISO14230-4 KWP fast on its own.

Any other solutions? :( maybe I’m doing something wrong?

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1661
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 9, 2017 (GMT)

in the program FiatEcuScan there are the parameters you need?
take a screenshot with the data on your car
https://yadi.sk/i/jZcmzGc03Mjq8x

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 9, 2017 (GMT)

Hi Friend, thank you for your reply. Yes I have fiatecuscan too, but I cannot see knock voltage or CF/ignition retard on FES. How do you recommend I go about logging this?

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1661
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 9, 2017 (GMT)

These parameters may have appeared only in cars with CAN diagnostics
take a screenshot in FiatECUScan
I will be able to look more closely if I have data IDs of your unit ECU

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 9, 2017 (GMT)

Hi friend, thank you! I will take a photo later in about an hour once I get back home.

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 11, 2017 (GMT)

Apologies friend, had to go overseas on urgent trip. Will be back tonight, hope you can help me then.. Apologies!

Kind regards,
Mat

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 11, 2017 (GMT)

Hi Friend, I attach screenshot for your reference. Hope you can help.. thanks in advance!

https://ibb.co/bS1sjF

Kind regards,
Mat

cintakc
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Posts: 1661
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 11, 2017 (GMT)

I downloaded, I’ll look today.

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 11, 2017 (GMT)

Thank you sir!

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1661
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 11, 2017 (GMT)

I looked in the scanner, for your auto diagnostics by protocol ISO14230-4 and the parameters you need for detonation does not support

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 12, 2017 (GMT)

Hi Friend thanks, so means there’s no way to use the fiat plugin?

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1661
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 12, 2017 (GMT)

to more accurately verify this, make a log using the terminal program Elm327Chat and file commands_bravo.txt
put this file in a folder Elm327Chat/CMDs
after starting the program and connecting to the adapter, select our file and issue commands to the list
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.mosreg.krasn.Elm327Chat&hl=ru
https://yadi.sk/i/d2Mif9ro3MomLx

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 13, 2017 (GMT)

Hi Friend, will paste as follows:

AppVersion: 1.17.3
Type ELM327: USB
Device: FtdiSerialDriver
VID: 1027 PID: 24577
BaudRate: 38400
Write: ATZ
Read:

ELM327 v1.4

>
Write: ATH1
Read: ATH1
OK

>
Write: ATSP5
Read: ATSP5
OK

>
Write: ATSH8110F1
Read: ATSH8110F1
OK

>
Write: 81
Read: 81
BUS INIT: OK
83 F1 10 C1 EF 8F C3

>
Write: ATKW
Read: ATKW
1:EF 2:8F

>
Write: 8301
Read: 8301
82 F1 10 C3 01 47

>
Write: 8302
Read: 8302
87 F1 10 C3 02 32 02 6E 14 0A 0D

>
Write: 1A97
Read: 1A97
87 F1 10 5A 97 7C 86 D0 86 AD 7E

>
Write: 1A91
Read: 1A91
8D F1 10 5A 91 35 31 38 30 35 30 32 33 20 20 20 71

>
Write: 1A92
Read: 1A92
8D F1 10 5A 92 30 32 36 31 32 30 31 36 38 37 20 9B

>
Write: 1A93
Read: 1A93
83 F1 10 5A 93 00 71

>
Write: 1A94
Read: 1A94
8D F1 10 5A 94 31 30 33 37 33 39 30 34 35 32 20 9E

>
Write: 1A95
Read: 1A95
84 F1 10 5A 95 01 01 76

>
Write: 1A96
Read: 1A96
88 F1 10 5A 96 37 39 31 30 41 31 BC

>
Write: 1A99
Read: 1A99
86 F1 10 5A 99 20 09 06 26 CF

>
Write: ATZ
Read: ATZ

ELM327 v1.4

>
Write: ATH1
Read: ATH1
OK

>
Write: ATSP7
Read: ATSP7
OK

>
Write: ATSHDA10F1
Read: ATSHDA10F1
OK

>
Write: 221891
Read: 221891
CAN ERROR

>
Write: 221892
Read: 221892
CAN ERROR

>
Write: 221893
Read: 221893
CAN ERROR

>
Write: 221894
Read: 221894
CAN ERROR

>

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1661
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 13, 2017 (GMT)

Your car works only on the k-line

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 13, 2017 (GMT)

Is there something wrong with my car?

I think this car should be canbus system? Because for example if I use other headlight bulb (HID) the Is error code on dashboard?

Any way to fix this?

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1661
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 13, 2017 (GMT)

Quote from Slickkon on September 8, 2017
… I am looking to log knock sensor voltage etc. Which is not available in other program.

what other programs show the parameter you need?
except as a plug-in
I think CAN diagnostics ECU Engine appeared on such cars later
Your ECU Engine does not respond to requests for CAN protocol ISO15765-4 29/500
possibly other control units of your car can use the CAN protocol

Slickkon
Member
Posts: 15
Post Re: Fiat Advance EX
on: September 13, 2017 (GMT)

I have no other program other than torque and MPS.

Maybe my ECU is old? Maybe what I can do is swap ecu with a newer car and just transfer the immo chip from my old ecu to new one?

Other than that I’m all out of ideas..

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