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amdriven2liv
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Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: October 1, 2011 (GMT)

Well, I’m going to bite the bullet and get this. I wont be able at this time to get the “best” BT OBDII reader, but I want to try this.

Here is the list of all the gauges I currently read on My SGII. I would really hope that all of these are in this App. I will be buying the “pro”.

Here are the Xgauges I now have entered in my Scangauge II. Going for a drive later to video the gauges in action. The ScII reads x gauges from #24 to #0

Accelerator Pedal Position (%)
TXD: 07E02209D4
RXF: 0462050906D4
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100020000
NAM: AP%

This is actually the MAP code.
\/ \/ \/ \/
Boost
TXD: 07E0221440
RXF: 046285140640
RXD: 3010
MTH: 012203200000
NAM: BST

With a little tweaking you can adjust this to read boost as you said.

To do this, just plug in the MAP code – get a reading from it with the key in the on position but the engine off, then based on the reading changed the last 4 digits of the MTH to whatever corresponds to your reading on this table

14.0 — FF74 (I USE THE “FF71” FOR MY AREA, IT WORKS GREAT)
14.1 — FF73
14.2 — FF72
14.3 — FF71
14.4 — FF70
14.5 — FF6F
14.6 — FF6E
14.7 — FF6D
14.8 — FF6C
14.9 — FF6B
15.0 — FF6A

^^^^^This makes boost very accurate for where a person lives ^^^^^^^^^^

VREF
TXD: 07E0221155
RXF: 046205110655
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000133330000
NAM: CVI

EBP
Exhaust Back Pressure
07E0221445
046285140645
3010
001D00500000
EBP

Engine Oil Temp.
07E0221310
046245130610
3010
00090005F05F
EOT

FICM Logic Power (Volts)
TXD: 07E02209CF
RXF: 0462450906CF
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FLP

FICM Main Power (Volts)
TXD: 07E02209D0
RXF: 0462450906D0
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FMP

FICM Vehicle Power (Volts)
TXD: 07E02209CE
RXF: 0462450906CE
RXD: 3010
MTH: 0064010000000
NAM: FVP

Fan Speed Sensor (RPM)
TXD: 07E022099F
RXF: 04620509069F
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100040000
NAM: FSS

Gear
TXD: 07E12211B3
RXF: 0462051106B3
RXD: 3008
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: GER

IA2 Sensor
Intake Air Temperature 2 (Fahrenheit)
TXD: 07E02216A8
RXF: 0462051606A8
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: IA2

Inj. Control Press.
07E0221446
046205140646
3010
003900640000
ICP

ICP Voltage (Volts)
TXD: 07E02216AD
RXF: 0462451606AD
RXD: 3010
MTH: 004827100000
NAM: ICV

IPR Duty Cycle
07E0221434
046285140634
3008
0DCA03E8000A
IPR %

Mass Fuel Desired (in milligrams perstroke)
TXD: 07E0221412
RXF: 046205140612
RXD: 3010
MTH: 000100100000
NAM: MFD

Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
TXD: 07E02209CD
RXF: 0462050906CD
RXD: 3701
MTH: 000100010000
NAM: SYC

Trans. Fluid Temp.
07E1221674
046205160674
3010
000100080000
TFT

VGT Duty Cycle (%)
TXD: 07E022096D
RXF: 04620509066D
RXD: 3010
MTH: 00647FFF0000
NAM: VGT

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sgd
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Posts: 7
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: October 7, 2011 (GMT)

Has anyone been able to get the Trans Temp to work for 2005 powerstroke?

piemmm
Administrator
Posts: 6082
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: October 7, 2011 (GMT)

Hi

It should work on the PowerStroke – you just need to make sure you have added the Ford extended/extra sensors to your available sensors list – you can do this from the main screen, press menu->settings->manage extra sensors->menu->add predefined set

The sensors will then appear in the list of available sensors when you add a new one in the realtime information screen

bigscrb15
Member
Posts: 2
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: October 7, 2011 (GMT)

Quote from admin on October 7, 2011
Hi

It should work on the PowerStroke – you just need to make sure you have added the Ford extended/extra sensors to your available sensors list – you can do this from the main screen, press menu->settings->manage extra sensors->menu->add predefined set

The sensors will then appear in the list of available sensors when you add a new one in the realtime information screen

Ian… AWESOME job on the app! I finally got the paid app after reading this post and it solved all my problems I had with the app. Having all the PIDs preinstalled was great! Works great on my 2003 Powerstroke 6.0

amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: October 7, 2011 (GMT)

Will this app work with a straight usb connection from the OBD2 adapter? Instead of Bluetooth? The reason I ask is, wouldn’t my phone be charging at the same time as reading the obd2? I’m going to need the phone charging while I’m using this on long trips, thus the question.

Thanks.

I haven’t used this yet, still waiting for the BT adapter.

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sgd
Member
Posts: 7
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: October 10, 2011 (GMT)

Quote from sgd on October 7, 2011
Has anyone been able to get the Trans Temp to work for 2005 powerstroke?

Loaded Ford extended PIDs. I setup a torque screen with the 3 TFT guages- 2 are the default PIDs from the install (TFT 1 & 2). The 3rd is from the extended Ford PIDs. The Ford PID and one off the default TFT display nothing (just a empty guage). The other default guage displays the same number as the ECT guage.

The EOT from the FORD PIDs was not correct, but I found correct scale in this forum.

Thanks for any help

amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: October 24, 2011 (GMT)

I haven’t gotten the Transmission temp to work correctly either.

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piemmm
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Posts: 6082
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: October 24, 2011 (GMT)

Hi!

Hm, If you’re having problems with that PID, edit the PID and change the header from ‘Auto’ to ‘TCM’ and see if that makes a difference (and let me know if it works so I can update the PID here)

Thanks

Ian

amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 2, 2011 (GMT)

Yeah! I just got the PLX Kiwi. I will be doing some good testing on these pids.

I may become a pest! LOL

Yes, I thought I would gamble on the cheap OBD2 readers. Oh, well, live and learn. Should have listened! And learned from others!!!

Tranny temp and oil temp are first. Then on to others.

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amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 2, 2011 (GMT)

By the way Ian, this is a great program you have here. Sadly, I might have just learned that the PCM program in my truck has what people lovingly call the “FICM” killer.

Thanks though, it may save me a tow bill!

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amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 4, 2011 (GMT)

I put the TCM in the transmission settings and now it looks to be reading correctly.

I did get EOT reading finally.I have fat fingers.

Now I can’t find the boost gauge, I know it was there when I was using the cheap BT adapter.

Now the few others I could really use:

VREF=Voltage Reference, should read 4.95-5.0V
221155

ICP Voltage (Volts)
2216AD

Cam vs. Crank Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
2209CD

This next one is important. On our vehicles, the computer will count codes that do not set a CEL. They are there, but they have not met the requirement to set the CEL. I currently use Scangauge II. And I have this gauge and use it. Not long ago I had a count of one. Then the next time I drove it would go away. So, I have something brewing in the motor. SGII will not read those DTCs. But, your Torque APP does! I pulled code P0528, which is my Fan Speed sensor.(I have a wiring issue there) and now I can get active on repairing the issue BEFORE it sets a CEL.

DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)
220200

Any input on these would be a great help.

Northwest United States

sgd
Member
Posts: 7
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 4, 2011 (GMT)

Quote from amdriven2liv on November 4, 2011
I put the TCM in the transmission settings and now it looks to be reading correctly.

I did get EOT reading finally.I have fat fingers.

Now I can’t find the boost gauge, I know it was there when I was using the cheap BT adapter.

Now the few others I could really use:

VREF=Voltage Reference, should read 4.95-5.0V
221155

ICP Voltage (Volts)
2216AD

Cam vs. Crank Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
2209CD

This next one is important. On our vehicles, the computer will count codes that do not set a CEL. They are there, but they have not met the requirement to set the CEL. I currently use Scangauge II. And I have this gauge and use it. Not long ago I had a count of one. Then the next time I drove it would go away. So, I have something brewing in the motor. SGII will not read those DTCs. But, your Torque APP does! I pulled code P0528, which is my Fan Speed sensor.(I have a wiring issue there) and now I can get active on repairing the issue BEFORE it sets a CEL.

DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)
220200

Any input on these would be a great help.

Hey amdriven2liv,
How did you setup your EOT? Did you use the extended PID from Ford.
thanks

amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 4, 2011 (GMT)

I thought I had the EOT right. I was sitting here this morning and saw the equation wasn’t right, so, I changed it and thought that was it.

Well, I just went out to the truck to make sure it was working, and it isn’t. Currently my Water temp is 47*f and my EOT reads 186*f.

So, here is the equation I used, but it isn’t quite right yet.

EOT
PID: 221310
Unit: Deg. F
Max/Min: 300/0
Equation: ((((A*256)+B)/100)+40)*(9/5)+32

Where did you see an equation for EOT? You said you found it in this forum somewhere?

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sgd
Member
Posts: 7
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 4, 2011 (GMT)

Quote from amdriven2liv on November 4, 2011
I thought I had the EOT right. I was sitting here this morning and saw the equation wasn’t right, so, I changed it and thought that was it.

Well, I just went out to the truck to make sure it was working, and it isn’t. Currently my Water temp is 47*f and my EOT reads 186*f.

So, here is the equation I used, but it isn’t quite right yet.

EOT
PID: 221310
Unit: Deg. F
Max/Min: 300/0
Equation: ((((A*256)+B)/100)+40)*(9/5)+32

Where did you see an equation for EOT? You said you found it in this forum somewhere?

It may have been in another thread. My settings for EOT are: Note the Unit is C and the equation has “-40” instead of “+40”. These settings seem to produce reasonable reading, but I have no way to verify the correct Temp.

PID: 221310
Unit: Deg. C
Max/Min: 300/0
Equation: ((((A*256)+B)/100)-40)*(9/5)+32

amdriven2liv
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Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 4, 2011 (GMT)

It may have been in another thread. My settings for EOT are: Note the Unit is C and the equation has “-40? instead of “+40?. These settings seem to produce reasonable reading, but I have no way to verify the correct Temp.
PID: 221310
Unit: Deg. C
Max/Min: 300/0
Equation: ((((A*256)+B)/100)-40)*(9/5)+32

Well, I will run out and check that equation in a moment.

I can see my ECT gauge is pretty close. After a 12-16 hour cold soak on the motor, the ECT and EOT should read within a degree or 2 of each other.

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amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 4, 2011 (GMT)

Ok, just went and played some.

Equation: ((((A*256)+B)/100)-60.5)*(9/5)+32

That is what I have entered currently.

Now it reads ECT 42.8* EOT 43.6 Which is real close.

I plugged in my Scangauge II it reads as follows:

ECT 42* (It does not read a decimal)

EOT 43.3*

Transmission on Torque reads 43.4*

So, my motor has not ran since 12pm west coast time Thursday. Outside temp today, depending on website, 44*-47*.

Northwest United States

sgd
Member
Posts: 7
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 4, 2011 (GMT)

Ok, just went and played some.

Equation: ((((A*256)+B)/100)-60.5)*(9/5)+32

That is what I have entered currently.

Now it reads ECT 42.8* EOT 43.6 Which is real close.

I plugged in my Scangauge II it reads as follows:

ECT 42* (It does not read a decimal)

EOT 43.3*

Transmission on Torque reads 43.4*

So, my motor has not ran since 12pm west coast time Thursday. Outside temp today, depending on website, 44*-47*.

I would be interested in the numbers the next time your truck is at operating temp.

amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 4, 2011 (GMT)

Quote from sgd on November 4, 2011

I would be interested in the numbers the next time your truck is at operating temp.

That will be late tonight. Will post my readings.

What I will do, take my commute, get readings at destination.

Then I will plug in my Scangauge II and check against it.

That will tell us if it worked or not.

Northwest United States

amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: November 5, 2011 (GMT)

This is the one that works:

((((A*256)+B)/100)-40)*(9/5)+32

What I found was some how I had 5 ( at the beginning of the equation. See the bold in the equation. Needed to be 4 (

Any way, when I got to work, I pugged in the Scangauge II and it read the same as the Torque Pro. This makes me feel better about my purchase.

Now, in the Ford PIDs there is the “Boost & Vacuum gage. I can’t get it to be Boost only. If my phone is in the house and I’m goofing with Torque, it says Boost on the gauge. Hooked up to the PLX BT it only comes out as Vacuum.

I’m really hoping to get the following PIDs though. If anyone can provide me with these I would be grateful.

VREF=Voltage Reference, should read 4.95-5.0V
221155

ICP Voltage (Volts)
2216AD

Cam vs. Crank Sync (1 = in sync, 0 = not in sync)
2209CD

This next one is important. On our vehicles, the computer will count codes that do not set a CEL. They are there, but they have not met the requirement to set the CEL. I currently use Scangauge II. And I have this gauge and use it. Not long ago I had a count of one. Then the next time I drove it would go away. So, I have something brewing in the motor. SGII will not read those DTCs. But, your Torque APP does! I pulled code P0528, which is my Fan Speed sensor.(I have a wiring issue there) and now I can get active on repairing the issue BEFORE it sets a CEL.

DTC Count (Diagnostic Trouble Code Count)
220200

Sean

Northwest United States

amdriven2liv
Member
Posts: 117
Post Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: December 2, 2011 (GMT)

Just keeping this bumped up.

Northwest United States

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