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chriz74
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Post custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: March 24, 2016 (GMT)

I sniffed the serial with a working scanner and got all the pids for this car.
Protocol kwp2000 fast init, can anyone help creating a custom conf for torque?

Communication starts like this:

elm init:

ATZ
ATSP5
ATSH8101F1
ATFI

Follows 1998 Mercedes A Class W168 Petrol Engine PIDs (pre OBD2 car)

3C00 – Hardware info

22110101 – Coolant Temperature

22110201 – Engine Start Temperature

22110301 – Intake Air temperature

22110401 – Engine Speed (Rpm)

22110501 – Target Idle Speed (Rpm) Calculated Value

22110601 – Engine Load

22110701 – Mass Air Flow (MAF)

22110801 – Inlet Manifold Pressure

22110A01 – Throttle Position

22110B01 – Firing Angle

22110C01 – Engine Torque

22110D01 – Injection Time

22110E01 – Fuel Consumption

22110F01 – Fuel consumed since start Total

22111001 – Battery Voltage

22111101 – Fuel Tank Pressure Difference

22111201 – Canister Purge Valve, Duty Cycle

22111301 – Vehicle Speed at Front Axle

22111501 – Pedal Value Sensor 1

22111601 – Pedal Value Sensor 2

22111701 – Throttle Actuator, voltage 1

22111801 – Throttle Actuator, voltage 2

22111B01 – Lambda Extract Value

22111F01 – Voltage Lambda Sensor Upstream

22112101 – Voltage Lambda Sensor Downstream

22112301 – Fuel Adaptation Upper Part Load Rich at Lower Part Load

22112401 – Fuel Adaptation Lower Part Load Rich at Upper Part Load

22112501 – Fuel Adaptation Idle at Idle Speed

22112601 – Idle Speed Adaptation Value

22114601 – Exhaust Gas Temperature

22114701 – Fuel Level (OK/NOT OK)

apparently the unit uses this same pid (22114701) to read also: Clutch Switch (ON/OFF), Air Conditioning Compressor (ON/OFF)

22114801 – Secondary Air Injection (ON/OFF)

apparently the unit uses this same pid (22114801) to read also: Knock Control (ON/OFF), Torque Control (ON/OFF), Tank Ventilation Valve (ON/OFF), Lambda Regulation, probe before catalytic converter (ON/OFF), Lambda Regulation, probe after catalytic converter (ON/OFF)

22114901 – End Of Line Mode (ON/OFF)

apparently the unit uses this same pid (22114901) to read also: Preheating, catalytic Converter (ON/OFF), Post Start Enrichment (ON/OFF), Inertia Switch (ON/OFF), Safety Fuel Shut Off (ON/OFF), Programming Throttle Limits (Done / Not Done)

22114C01 – Start Enable (YES/NO)

22117201 – Engine Oil Level

22117301 – Engine Oil Quality

——

READ DTC (ELM 327):

ATSP5
ATH1
ATSH8101F1
ATFI
22111001
ATSH8101F3
A1

CLEAR DTC (ELM 327):

ATSP5
ATH1
ATSH8101F1
ATFI
22111001
ATSH8101F3
14

cintakc
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Post Re: custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: March 24, 2016 (GMT)

0000114592: RxD:81 01 F2 81 F5
0000114680: Ans(???):80 F2 01 03 C1 C2 46 3F
0000114951: RxD:82 01 F2 3C 00 B1
0000115047: Ans(???):8F F2 01 7C 00 16 61 50 03 79 FF 00 11 00 00 19 00 65 CF
0000119967: RxD:81 01 F2 A1 15
0000120055: Ans(???):84 F2 01 E1 FF FF 01 57
0000126889: RxD:81 01 F2 3F B3
0000126977: Ans(???):81 F2 01 7E F2
0000130014: RxD:81 01 F2 14 88
0000130102: Ans(???):81 F2 01 54 C8

try address on the scanner tester F2

chriz74
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Posts: 7
Post Re: custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: March 26, 2016 (GMT)

@cintakc

Hi, sorry I don’t understand the meaning of what you wrote.
Can you explain what test you ask?
Set header 8101F2 ? in the Terminal? or in Torque?
And then what?

I think it makes no difference setting the header to F1 or F2 .. as you can see 3c00 is returning the same data, your test:

send: 82 01 F2 3C 00 B1
reply: 8F F2 01 7C 00 16 61 50 03 79 FF 00 11 00 00 19 00 65 CF

mine:

send: 3c00
reply: 8F F1 01 7C 00 16 61 50 03 79 FF 00 11 00 00 19 00 65 CE #0D

here’s an example log:

11016 ms >>>> ATZ
ATZ#0D
#0D
#0D
ELM327 v1.5#0D
#0D
>
16812 ms >>>> atsp5
atsp5#0D
OK#0D
#0D
>
8969 ms >>>> atsh8101f1
atsh8101f1#0D
OK#0D
#0D
>
4859 ms >>>> ATH1
ATH1#0D
OK#0D
#0D
>
6032 ms >>>> 81
81#0D
BUS INIT:
OK#0D
83 F1 01 C1 C2 46 3E #0D
#0D
>
11125 ms >>>> 3c00
3c00#0D
8F F1 01 7C 00 16 61 50 03 79 FF 00 11 00 00 19 00 65 CE #0D
#0D
>
27766 ms >>>> 22110101
22110101#0D
85 F1 01 62 11 01 9B 9B 21 #0D
#0D
>
5187 ms >>>> 22110201
22110201#0D
85 F1 01 62 11 02 9A 00 86 #0D
#0D
>
4125 ms >>>> 22110301
22110301#0D
85 F1 01 62 11 03 50 00 3D #0D
#0D

example 3c00 is returning the unit MB part number

16 61 50 03 79 -> a166150379

cintakc
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Posts: 1458
Post Re: custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: March 26, 2016 (GMT)

my scanner gives a header F2, I think it will help you

chriz74
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Posts: 7
Post Re: custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: March 26, 2016 (GMT)

what scanner do you have? What version/year of the car?

cintakc
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Posts: 1458
Post Re: custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: March 26, 2016 (GMT)

This data from the emulator

chriz74
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Posts: 7
Post Re: custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: March 26, 2016 (GMT)

what software?

cintakc
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Post Re: custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: March 26, 2016 (GMT)

Diagun

soumyasen92
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Posts: 37
Post Re: custom CSV for non OBD2 Mercedes A Class w168 (1998), list of PIDs inside
on: January 23, 2019 (GMT)

Hey thanks for the PIDs

I want to read the odometer/total distance travelled. This data is generally stored in multiple ECUs in a car and hence there must be an enhanced PID (mode 22) to read it. Anyone knows this particular PID?

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