Torque

Forums

Forums

Guest  

Show or hide header
Welcome Guest, posting in this forum require registration.




Torque » Torque OBD ECU Scanner » Torque Discussion / Ideas » Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)

Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
Phil_in_NH
Member
Posts: 29
Post Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: March 8, 2016 (GMT)

Torque Users,

I have been playing with some custom PIDs for my 2011 FORD F150 (5.0L) and was able to get 5 custom PIDs working that are very useful. I lifted these PIDs from various OBD sites and tested them on my truck. All five work perfectly with Torque Pro.

They are:
– Transmission Temperature (verified with my dash console)
– Tire Pressure Readings from the TPMS system

Note: If your TPMS system has not been “trained”, the tire readings may not be for the correct tire. When you rotate your tires, the truck doesn’t know that the tires have moved and there is a procedure to reset the tire bindings to the correct location. See your owner’s manual on this procedure.

I think the Tire Pressure PIDs should work on most Fords with TPMS.

Phil

_________________________________________________________________

“OBD2 Mode and PID” = 221E1C
“Long Name” = Trans Temp
“Short Name” = Trans T
“Minimum Value” = -40
“Maximum Value” = 260
“Scale Factor” = 1

“Unit Type” = F
“Equation” = ((signed(A)*256)+B)*(9/80)+32
or
“Unit Type” = C
“Equation” = ((signed(A)*256)+B)/16

Leave the OBD Header blank

“OBD2 Mode and PID” = 222813
“Long Name” = Left Front
“Short Name” = LF Tire
“Minimum Value” = 0
“Maximum Value” = 60
“Scale Factor” = 1
“Unit Type” = PSI
“Equation” = (A*256+B)/20
“OBD Header” = 726

“OBD2 Mode and PID” = 222814
“Long Name” = Right Front
“Short Name” = RF Tire
“Minimum Value” = 0
“Maximum Value” = 60
“Scale Factor” = 1
“Unit Type” = PSI
“Equation” = (A*256+B)/20
“OBD Header” = 726

“OBD2 Mode and PID” = 222815
“Long Name” = Right Rear
“Short Name” = RR Tire
“Minimum Value” = 0
“Maximum Value” = 60
“Scale Factor” = 1
“Unit Type” = PSI
“Equation” = (A*256+B)/20
“OBD Header” = 726

“OBD2 Mode and PID” = 222816
“Long Name” = Left Rear
“Short Name” = LR Tire
“Minimum Value” = 0
“Maximum Value” = 60
“Scale Factor” = 1
“Unit Type” = PSI
“Equation” = (A*256+B)/20
“OBD Header” = 726

Phil_in_NH
Realtime Charts Plugin Developer, outdoorsman, car guy, woodworker, software engineer, fly fisherman, cyclist

Get Realtime Charts for Torque Pro at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pjt.realtimecharts_v1

Crimson Tide
Member
Posts: 1
Post Re: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: January 28, 2017 (GMT)

I have entered these as written in my 2009 Ford FX4. They show up on the screen, but no data. Can you possibly help me out with any suggestions? Thank you.

F-150Torqued
Member
Posts: 413
Post Re: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: January 28, 2017 (GMT)

Where in the world did that “OBD Header” 726 come from? That’s a new one on me. Might make some of mine work – IDK.

Your information (on TFT) corresponds to what I have dug up – but it highlights the WIDE variation in OBDII PIDs across near / similar models. 1E1C is not applicable to the Triton Series (2004-2008) at least. I also have information that 221E is TFT on some ford models – maybe EcoBoost.

@Crimson Tide might try PID # 1674 with formula ((A*256)+B)/8. It is TFT (no FMEM) on my 2004 Triton. That reads within 1-2 degrees of ECT after cold soak, and looks reasonable to me (around 130 – 145) under normal operating conditions. ALSO, on my Triton, # 11BD is TFT_V (transmission sensor volts input to the PCM). I _think_ formula is ((A*256)+B)/13107, but IDK, but the conversion to temp might track the table in the thread here: https://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=8465.0 where I am trying to work out a suitable formula for Engine Oil Temperature.

BTW @Phil_in_NH, I am a proud and enthusiastic user of your GREAT plug in linked in your post. There is a lengthy post in which I highlighted it on a popular F150Forum here:

http://www.f150forum.com/f4/final-repair-guide-5-4-cam-phaser-tick-knock-sound-141266/index305/#post5137910

The charts were instrumental in my being able to work out formulas to come up with a great Torque diagnostics dashboard for the ‘infamous Cam Phaser problems’ with the F150 Triton engine. It (with All my formulas – and a link to a CSV file) is posted here:

http://www.f150forum.com/f4/final-repair-guide-5-4-cam-phaser-tick-knock-sound-141266/index304/#post5133357

** I might suggest a feature to ‘Offset” OBD voltages by a user entered value as opposed to a base 10 multiple. IE: I would like to compare CHT temps (around 200-212) degrees to CAM RETARD (0 – 62 degrees). for example: One chart line would be CHT – 150. But it is a fabulous Plug-In.

—————

54371019

F-150Torqued
Member
Posts: 413
Post Re: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: January 29, 2017 (GMT)

@Phil_in_NH

I finally had a chance to check my database against your PID’s for TPMS posted above.

PID Numbers match my data – all except headers which show as “Auto”. It appears my information came from a Ford Focus website – credits to them. My vehicle does not have TPMS, so understandably they do not work for me.

However, there is a difference in the Formula in my data. My data shows formula for TPMS PIDs as:(((((256*A)+B)/3)+22)/3)*0.145

I can’t reconcile the approach in EITHER particular formula. Dividing by 20 — ??-why?? Dividing by 3,add 22 then dividing by 3 again, then multiplyg by 0.145 … ??? None of this seems to match A/D counts of 1024, A/D converter frequency, any binary multiple or anything.

Spot checks on sample data for both formulas shows the above formula produces a 1 lb higher reading at 50 lbs, but about 4 lbs higher down around 1 to 5 lbs. Users might check results against their own actual tire readings.

GOOD INFO – HOWEVER. Thanks.

————

54371019

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2741
Post Re: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: January 31, 2017 (GMT)

Quote from F-150Torqued on January 29, 2017
@Phil_in_NH

I finally had a chance to check my database against your PID’s for TPMS posted above.

PID Numbers match my data – all except headers which show as “Auto”. It appears my information came from a Ford Focus website – credits to them. My vehicle does not have TPMS, so understandably they do not work for me.

However, there is a difference in the Formula in my data. My data shows formula for TPMS PIDs as:(((((256*A)+B)/3)+22)/3)*0.145

I can’t reconcile the approach in EITHER particular formula. Dividing by 20 — ??-why?? Dividing by 3,add 22 then dividing by 3 again, then multiplyg by 0.145 … ??? None of this seems to match A/D counts of 1024, A/D converter frequency, any binary multiple or anything.

Spot checks on sample data for both formulas shows the above formula produces a 1 lb higher reading at 50 lbs, but about 4 lbs higher down around 1 to 5 lbs. Users might check results against their own actual tire readings.

GOOD INFO – HOWEVER. Thanks.

————

54371019

While I can’t test these equations it seems the
divide by 3 add 22 divide by 3 * 0.145 might
be similar to…

hPaA/10=kPaA
kPaA*0.145038=PsiA

((A*256)+B)*0.0145038

Just curious.

ChiefDoggyDaddy
Member
Posts: 24
Post Re: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: November 22, 2018 (GMT)

New Torque Pro user and owner of a F150, 2013, 5.0.
Keep these coming!!

ChiefDoggyDaddy
Member
Posts: 24
Post Re: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: November 24, 2018 (GMT)

Do you have an oil temp and pressure for the 150

ChiefDoggyDaddy
Member
Posts: 24
Post Re: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: November 24, 2018 (GMT)

By the way, all five of these PIDs work wonderful on my 2013 F150, 5.0

JimmyM
Member
Posts: 20
Post Re: Custom PIDs for Ford F150 (2011 tested)
on: December 25, 2018 (GMT)

I’ve got a 2011 Expedition 5.4. These don’t return any data on my Exp. I read in places that the TPMS is on the MS-CAN

Pages: [1]
WP-Forum by: Fredrik Fahlstad, Version: 2.4
Page loaded in: 0.192 seconds.

  Follow me on twitter