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userM
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Posts: 96
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: November 17, 2016 (GMT)

I am sure it was.
I can’t give the screen right now, because it is gone from the app.
I will do it again tomorrow.

userM
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Posts: 96
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: November 18, 2016 (GMT)

hi

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cintakc
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Posts: 1288
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: November 18, 2016 (GMT)

strange of course, and you have Carly program works with this adapter
you checked the adapter program https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.applagapp.elm327identifier&hl=ru

userM
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Posts: 96
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: November 18, 2016 (GMT)

Scan date=2016-11-18 16:46:47
Device name=Carly Adapter
Device mac=8D:04:F8:15:C7:9C
Device Version (Declared)=ELM327 v1.4 v19

Command Version Result
AT@1 1.0 OK
ATSPA6 1.0 OK
ATTPA6 1.0 OK
ATTP6 1.0 OK
ATSP00 1.3 OK
ATSP6 1.0 OK
ATAL 1.0 OK
ATNL 1.0 KO
ATAMC 2.0 KO
ATAMT20 2.0 KO
ATRA70 1.3 KO
ATSR70 1.2 OK
ATAR 1.2 OK
ATAT0 1.2 OK
ATAT2 1.2 OK
ATAT1 1.2 OK
ATBD 1.0 KO
ATBRT0F 1.2 OK
ATCAF0 1.0 OK
ATCAF1 1.0 OK
ATCEA04 1.4 OK
ATCEA 1.4 OK
ATCF00000111 1.0 OK
ATCF111 1.0 OK
ATCFC0 1.0 OK
ATCFC1 1.0 OK
ATCM00000111 1.0 OK
ATCM111 1.0 OK
ATCP18 1.0 OK
ATCRA7C0 1.3 OK
ATCRA000007C0 1.3 OK
ATCRA 1.4b KO
ATCS 1.0 OK
ATCSM0 1.4b KO
ATCSM1 1.4b KO
ATCTM5 2.1 KO
ATCTM1 2.1 KO
ATCV0000 1.4 OK
ATD1 1.3 OK
ATD0 1.3 OK
ATDP 1.0 OK
ATDPN 1.0 OK
ATE0 1.0 OK
ATE1 1.0 OK
ATFCSD0430FF00 1.1 OK
ATFCSH000007B0 1.1 KO
ATFCSH7B0 1.1 OK
ATFCSM0 1.1 OK
ATFE 1.3a KO
ATH0 1.0 OK
ATH1 1.0 OK
ATI 1.0 OK
ATIB10 1.0 OK
ATIB48 1.4 OK
ATIB96 1.0 OK
ATIFRS 1.2 KO
ATIFRH 1.2 KO
ATIFR0 1.2 KO
ATIFR2 1.2 KO
ATIFR1 1.2 KO
ATIGN 1.4 KO
ATIIA7A 1.2 OK
ATJS 1.3 KO
ATJE 1.3 KO
ATJHF0 1.4b KO
ATJHF1 1.4b KO
ATJTM5 1.4b KO
ATJTM1 1.4b KO
ATKW 1.3 OK
ATKW0 1.2 OK
ATKW1 1.2 OK
ATL0 1.0 OK
ATL1 1.0 OK
ATM1 1.0 OK
ATM0 1.0 OK
ATPPFFON 1.1 KO
ATPPFFOFF 1.1 KO
ATR0 1.0 OK
ATR1 1.0 OK
ATRV 1.0 OK
ATS0 1.3 OK
ATS1 1.3 OK
ATSDFF 1.4 OK
ATRD 1.4 KO
ATSH000007E0 2.0 KO
ATSHA848F1 1.0 OK
ATSH7B0 1.0 OK
ATST32 1.0 OK
ATSWFF 1.0 OK
ATTAF9 1.4 OK
ATV1 1.3 OK
ATV0 1.3 OK
ATWMC133F13E 1.0 KO
ATPC 1.0 OK
ATWS 1.0 OK
ATD 1.0 OK
ATZ 1.0 OK

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1288
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: November 18, 2016 (GMT)

AT@1 1.0 OK
ATSPA6 1.0 OK
ATTPA6 1.0 OK
ATTP6 1.0 OK
ATSP00 1.3 OK
ATSP6 1.0 OK
ATAL 1.0 OK

But in your log adapter responded to ATSP6 command “OK”,
as in the screenshot at the terminal adapter does not understand this command

is the theme that gives examples of how the adapter must meet the normal firmware
https://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=8210.0

I think this adapter is also with bad firmware
it can only work in standard protocol EOBD

user_M
Member
Posts: 20
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: November 18, 2016 (GMT)

Sorry but I don’t understand
The adapter reads the oil temperature at leadt in another program.
It can’t be that difficult to find a proper adapter..
Anyway If this adapter won’t do i am giving up..

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1288
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: November 18, 2016 (GMT)

I tried to help you, I ran the program on the emulator Carly and watched what requests it gives, I give them to you, but I do not know what should be the correct answer, so the program Carly I continue to not go without getting the desired response
you need somewhere to find the right PID

can someone do for you sniffing Carly exchange program with your car
can you tell someone you desired Pid

user_M
Member
Posts: 20
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: November 18, 2016 (GMT)

Our English are not so good and that is making even harder than it is.

I dont have anything alse to do.. I will wait hopefully that someone could do something more.

Thanks for the help

raichean
Member
Posts: 7
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: April 8, 2018 (GMT)

Digging up an old post..

So I have a 2014 N55 435i, and am trying to get the BMW specific pids to work. I found some big long init string that I cant confirm it actually will work or not properly, plus a N47 motor (328d) CSV file for PIDs. I was told though that the file wont work as the ECU info is different.

Candidly I am really surprised at this forum given this appears to be the primary and only way to get support for this app.

The generic pids appear to be working, but after enough reading here, I assuming they are not accurate without the specific setup for my car.

Has anyone figured this out, or can share detailed information? I am all over the primary BMW enthusiast forums and the info isn’t there either.

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1288
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: April 8, 2018 (GMT)

try this free application, will you be able to connect to your car
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iViNi.bmwhatLite

raichean
Member
Posts: 7
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: April 9, 2018 (GMT)

Quote from cintakc on April 8, 2018
try this free application, will you be able to connect to your car
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iViNi.bmwhatLite

Thanks.. I was looking at that, but I have already paid for TP, so not sure why I would run Carly? (side note, aren’t they a competitor to TP?) I would run that if I knew it would work accurately, but I really need to get this figured out.

cintakc
Member
Posts: 1288
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: April 9, 2018 (GMT)

The application is free, I suggested that you try it, if it works, you can see the diagnostic log in the log of this application

FntX
Member
Posts: 59
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: April 11, 2018 (GMT)

I found that you don’t need the init command.
Could you try F1300E01?
The formula should be ((r2*256)+r3)*0.1

FntX
Member
Posts: 59
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: December 17, 2018 (GMT)

I’ve managed to grab a list of PIDs for BMW and uploaded them here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hVMBICYKGwZ5NJrNIG1D-GYp3e1yiQLS7dWSAOv11-s/edit?usp=sharing

Feel free to request write access if you want to contribute.

Please note:
The column “PID” may contain huge sequences that may or may not include special init codes. Most of the time the PID should be around 8 characters long.
Example:
PID: 8412F12C100458
To be used by Torque: 2C100458

PIDs are unique in their own special way: A PID doesn’t yield two or more values of two or more different sensors but it can give you two values at once for the same sensor. You will spot a lot of PIDs that are not unique. Don’t bother about them yet…

The conversion and factor of every PID can be calculated by using the columns “Factor” and “Correction”:
Example: Oil Temperature of N47 Engine:
Formula: (INT16(R2:R3)*0,01)-100
Which means: Take Bytes 2 and 3 from the response times factor of 0,01 and apply the correction of -100

FntX
Member
Posts: 59
Post Re: [Research] BMW PIDs
on: September 10, 2019 (GMT)

Another Update

I’ve created a new document for research. The idea is that every engine gets its own sheet. Currently I’m probing n43 and n54 engines. I’m pretty sure about the n54.

Feel free to contribute:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O0YGWJ116Iw3ahWbitswtLod-T42D8GbRRtfxiE1r84/edit?usp=sharing

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