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BigMat
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Posts: 8
Post HTC Desire Issues
on: April 26, 2010 (GMT)

About me:
HTC Desire (Droid 2.1.1)
UK Orange OEM ROM

Problem: OBD bit is paired, but Torque cannot connect on BlueTooth.

I have unpaired all BT devices, and re-paired the OBD bit and tried again with all possibilities of fast communication and ELM327 timeout set, but no joy.

I know the OBD bit works, as works OK with a WinMo device,
and does work on the Desire with OBDroid. No other BT problems noticed with the phone.

My phone does not give me the option to connect to the OBD bit. In Wireless>>Bluetooth>>Bluetooth Settings, it shows as “CAN OBDII”, but when I tap and hold I just get “Unpair” – no other option – other BT stuff all has a “Connect” opion.

I suspect an issue with the BT stack in my ROM, not with Torque. If you can send me a version with ultimate logging, I would be more than happy to help find what is going on.

Location: Leicester, UK.
piemmm
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Posts: 6629
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: April 26, 2010 (GMT)

From memory you’re the second person with a Desire that has this problem, the first was about a week ago so it is looking increasingly likley that it’s a stack problem, which is annoying as the Desire is a really nice device!!

I’ve already put the debug in, I just need to complete testing and fix a trip counter related bug then I’ll push out an update, hopefully with that I will be able to figure out what is going on and get you working!
BigMat
Member
Posts: 8
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: April 26, 2010 (GMT)

Some Googling has shown that there are quiet a few people experiencing BT problems with Desire in general.

I dropped a note to HTC to ask them where I should go to get help – them, Google/Android or Orange. I wont hold my breath waiting!

Please let me know if there is anything I can to do help – I do have a bit of experience with Windows development.

In the meantime, I’ll keep watching here, and look out for the debug update.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

Location: Leicester, UK.
sparks2005
Member
Posts: 4
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: April 28, 2010 (GMT)

I’m having problems to, paired but can not connect.

UK HTC Desire
Unbranded

Will buy this app soon as I see it working :)
BigMat
Member
Posts: 8
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: April 28, 2010 (GMT)

Just sent through the comms log from the latest update. Still cannot connect.

This time, something very slightly odd happened…. After quitting Torque, I went to unpair and re-pair again. Accidently, I hit the ‘Make Device Discoverable’ button on my phone instead. The phone did not go discoverable (that is to say the phone did not think it was discoverable). I tried this again – still would go discoverable. I then tried to turn bluetooth off – but it would not turn off. Then, the phone attempted to connect to my headset for no apparent reason!!! After about 10 seconds, the phone crashed and did a warm restart. BT still would not turn off, so I powered off and on again.

FYI – I have 3 BT devices… In order that they appear, I have a Laptop, then the Headset, then the OBD bit.

This looks like BT stack problems, but hoped that by posting here, it MAY shed some light on the problem (BT works fine with other devices, just doesnt like the OBD it).

Location: Leicester, UK.
BigMat
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Posts: 8
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: April 28, 2010 (GMT)

Got a response from HTC… “Try a factory reset”.

Tried this, but still no luck. I forwarded an extract from the comms log to them, just in case.

Location: Leicester, UK.
sparks2005
Member
Posts: 4
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: April 28, 2010 (GMT)

Spent hours trying to sort this and got no where, hard reset, soft reset, reinstalled, tick this tick that………….help really want this to work.
piemmm
Administrator
Posts: 6629
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: April 28, 2010 (GMT)

Hi!

I’m afraid that this is not something that is going to be end-user fixable and is more than likely going to require a ROM upgrade from HTC for the Desire as this is the only device that I have seen this problem happen on to date. I am reasonably confident that it’s a driver-level problem and not a problem in Torque itself.

It seems to be closely related to trying to use the bluetooth as a standard rfcomm serial port (uuid:00001101-0000-1000-8000-00805F9B34FB) but seems to be broken and even puts the device into an unstable state, and in some instances I am seeing the native BluetoothSocket.initSocketNative() call break with unexpected errors.

I haven’t seen this problem with any other HTC device apart from the Desire.

Unfortunately I don’t yet have access to a Desire (a colleague may get one in the next month due to an upgrade and I may be fortunate enough to pry it away for some testing) so it is going to rely on HTC finding this bug and fixing it if it is indeed a driver issue (then pushing out a ROM update, which will take time), or some other hack to get around the issue.

If I do get hold of a HTC Desire, due to the nature of the bug I’m not sure I would be able to do anything anyway, but I will however try to find a workaround for it if I can!

I know just how fustrating this can be when you are so close to getting something working!!

BigMat
Member
Posts: 8
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: April 29, 2010 (GMT)

Ian – I agree with you that the Desire ROM seems to be at fault…. my money is on the Bluetooth stack not properly recognising the serial port communication service exposed by the OBD bit. I have suggested this to HTC, so will let you know their comments.

I hope readers will see that this appears to be Desire specific, and that any troubles I have had are not a reflection on the App Author (although his cooperation and commitment to helping resolve this are to be noted!).

Could any Desire owners who have got Torque working with their device, please post here!!

Location: Leicester, UK.
jeroen
Member
Posts: 2
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 4, 2010 (GMT)

I think that was me, that Piemmm talked about as the other person with the same issues.
Just wondering of there was any news on the issue?
Today i updated torque to the latest release and noticed it is now possible to add PIDs.
Looking forward in using this app.
Fii
Member
Posts: 2
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 4, 2010 (GMT)

I did some experimenting with my HTC Desire and bluetooth serial ports.

Short story: seems that HTC Desire bluetooth can not connect to other device which is listening for SPP UUID, but other devices can connect to it if Desire is working as server.

Long story: I have 3 bluetooth devices: Desire, ASUS Eee PC and a Nokia phone. I took the Android bluetooh sample app as a basis and used also some JavaME and JavaSE samples to create server and client apps for Nokia and regular Java bluetooth app for PC. When Desire was acting as server it was possible to connect to it using the SPP UUID from both PC and Nokia and send some data back and forth. PC and Nokia was able to connect to each other in both modes. But I could not connect from Desire to neither PC nor the Nokia acting as server.
BigMat
Member
Posts: 8
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 4, 2010 (GMT)

I have just spoke to HTC.

The Desire can only act as the server in SPP profile.

This is known to HTC, and sounds like it is not an ‘oversight’, as I was told that Android on Desire does not support this! It is being reviewed by HTC, and a ROM update may or may not be made to resolve this.

My call was logged as being ANOTHER customer who is requesting an update. Interestingly, when I phoned HTC on 08458900079, I had to press option 2 to get through to someone. If anyone else wishes to register their interest in an update, they should bear this in mind!

Location: Leicester, UK.
fierykevbo
Member
Posts: 1
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 4, 2010 (GMT)

I have a Verizon HTC Incredible which is almost exactly like the Desire. I am experiencing the exact same issues. I am paired but cannot connect. It is Android 2.1, with HTC Sense.

piemmm
Administrator
Posts: 6629
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 6, 2010 (GMT)

Hi guys!

There may be some progress (a workaround) to get this working for those of you with the HTC Desire. I shall hopefully know more tonight or possibly this lunchtime.

Ian
BigMat
Member
Posts: 8
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 6, 2010 (GMT)

Come on then Ian! Don’t keep me in suspense…. Let me know when its ready and I’ll give it a test 😎

Location: Leicester, UK.
piemmm
Administrator
Posts: 6629
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 6, 2010 (GMT)

There was an update posted about 3 hours ago(2 today in total), if you haven’t got it already then try it and give it a whirl, getting a bit busy my end with lots of people contacting me at the moment, but I am still here reading the forums!
sparks2005
Member
Posts: 4
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 6, 2010 (GMT)

I can now connect to the ecu on a 2002 Renault but not getting any data, I’ll try it on a VW tomorrow.
jeroen
Member
Posts: 2
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 6, 2010 (GMT)

IT WORKS! Thank you very much. I will now surely buy the full version. Havn’t tested it yet while driving, but it connected and showing some dials already while just idling.

BigMat
Member
Posts: 8
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 7, 2010 (GMT)

Great work Ian – it works perfectly!!!! (Phone = Orange UK HTC Desire, Car = 07 plate Renault Megane R26)

I am so impressed with this app, and with your commitment.

Well done.

I have now installed the paid version. This is an absolute bargain at the current price – I would be happy paying at least 5 times as much.

For reference, I have used several OBD programs for displaying live data, and Torque simply blows the others away. No contest.

Location: Leicester, UK.
sparks2005
Member
Posts: 4
Post Re: HTC Desire Issues
on: May 8, 2010 (GMT)

Installed paid version now and still no data, all I get is connect to ecu.
The car is a 2002 Renault diesel.
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