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MPD56
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Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: June 30, 2014 (GMT)

First of all, I don’t know the Developer, nor am I Torque Pro expert or a Diesel Tech. A few months back a person introduced me to Torque Pro and I’ve been enjoying it for self interest. I hope this helps some of the folks as other members have helped me. (Thanks Capp777).

That said, I thought I would start a new Thread with a list of Ford 6.7L Extended PIDs that I think are working good enough to be useful to some but maybe not all. If anyone has any PIDs that they would like to add to the list, please post on this thread and I will try to keep the list up to date on the first post of this thread. I’m also still testing about 30 PIDs. If you find any errors please let me know and I’ll edit in the corrections. If you have questions to why a PID or the truck’s computer is giving a certain response, please start and ask in the new thread to help keep this thread organized and less confusing.

Another interesting link below

http://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=4109.0

Torque Pro 2013 Ford 6.7L Extended PIDS
Updated. July 09, 2014

Ambient Air Temperature in °C (Truck External Sensor) –
PID – 22F446 – Done Testing –
Long Name (used in menus) – Ambient Air Temperature C 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Air Temp
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – (NOTE: Leave blank, I have my units set to “F” so this will show “C”)
Equation – A-40
OBD Header –

Ambient Air Temperature in °F (Truck External Sensor) –
PID – 22F446 – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Ambient Air Temperature 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Air Temp
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °F
Equation – A*(9/5)-40
OBD Header – 7E0

Accelerator Pedal Position “E”
PID – 4a – Done Testing – Custom PID
Long Name (used in menus) – Accelerator Pedal Position E 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – APP E 6.7L
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – %
Equation – (A-20)*1.22
OBD Header – 7E0

Barometric Pressure (from Torque App)
PID – 33 – Done Testing – Torque App PID
Long Name (used in menus) – Barometric Pressure (from Vehicle from Torque App)
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Baro
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – psi
Equation –
OBD Header –

Boost (Turbo) – Boost
PID – 0187 – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Boost 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Boost
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 40.0
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – psi
Equation – ((((B*256)+C)*0.00393)+2.25)-Baro()
OBD Header – 7E0

DPF Regeneration Status
PID – 22F48B – Done Testing.
Long Name (used in menus) – DPF Regen Status 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Regen
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100.0
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – ON/OFF
Equation – {B:0}
OBD Header – 7E0

DPF Distance Since Last Complete Regen
PID – 220434 – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Distance Since Last Complete Regeneration 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – DSCR (DIA)
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – Miles
Equation – ((A < 16)+(B < 8)+C)*0.24 OBD Header – 7E0 Comment : No spaces in equation, only way it would let me post it was with spaces?? DPF Pressure –
PID – 22116C – Still Testing –
Long Name (used in menus) – Diesel Particulate Filter 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – DPFP
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – psi
Equation –
OBD Header – 7E0

DPF Soot Mass %
PID – 22042C – Done Testing – From other member
Long Name (used in menus) – DPF Soot Mass % 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Soot %
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – %
Equation – ((((A*256)+B)*(100/65535))-1)/1.75*100
OBD Header – 7E0

DPF Soot Mass
PID – 22042C – Done Testing – Data Value (1.7 = 100% Soot?
Long Name (used in menus) – DPF Soot Mass 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Soot
Min Value – 1.0
Max Value – 3.0
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – Grams/Liter
Equation – ((A*256)+B)*(100/65535)-1
OBD Header – 7E0

EGT Post Turbo – EGT 11
PID – 22F478 – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Post Turbo EGT 11 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – EGT 11
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °F
Equation – (((B*256)+C)*0.18)-40.0
OBD Header – 7E0

EGT Post SCR/Pre DPF – EGT 12
PID – 22F478 – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Post SCR/Pre DPF – EGT 12 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – EGT 12
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °F
Equation – (((D*256)+E)*0.18)-40.0
OBD Header – 7E0

EGT Pre DPF – EGT 13
PID – 22F478 – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Pre DPF – EGT 13 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – EGT 13
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °F
Equation – (((F*256)+G)*0.18)-40.0
OBD Header – 7E0

EGT Post DPF – EGT 14
PID – 22F478 – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Exhaust Gas Temperature Sensor Post DPF – EGT 14 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – EGT 14
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °F
Equation – (((H*256)+I)*0.18)-40.0
OBD Header – 7E0

Exhaust Back Pressure – EBP
PID – 0173 – Still Testing – 221445? –
Long Name (used in menus) – Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – EBP
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value –
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – psi
Equation – ((B*256)+C)*0.03625
OBD Header – 7E0

Engine Coolant Temperature 1
PID – 0105 – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Engine Coolant Temperature ECT 1 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – ECT 1
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °F
Equation – (A*(9/5))-40
OBD Header –

Engine Oil Temperature – EOT
PID – 22f45c – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Engine Oil Temperature Sensor 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – EOT
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 400
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °F
Equation – A*(9/5)-40
OBD Header – 7E0

Engine RPM – RPM
PID – 0c – Torque – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Engine RPM (Torque) 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – RPM
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – RPM
Equation – ((A*256)+B)/4
OBD Header – 7E0

Fuel Tank Level
PID – 22f42f – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Fuel Tank Level 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Fuel Level
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – %
Equation – A*0.39216
OBD Header – 7E0

Fuel Rate KPL Average
PID – E5 – to make – Custom PID
Long Name (used in menus) – Fuel Rate KPL (Average)
Short Name (used in gauge display) –
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – L/h
Equation – ((A*256)+B)*0.05
OBD Header – 7E0

Intake Air Temperature – IAT
PID – 0f – Testing –
Long Name (used in menus) – Intake Air Temperature Sensor 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – IAT
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °C
Equation – A-40
OBD Header – 7E0

Manifold Abs Pressure – MAP
PID – 0187 – Testing –
Long Name (used in menus) – Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – MAP
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – psi
Equation – ((A*256)+C)*0.03625
OBD Header – 7E0

Speed Vehicle MPH (PCM)–
PID – 0D – Testing – Custom PID
Long Name (used in menus) – Speed 6.7L (PCM)
Short Name (used in gauge display) – MPH
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100.0
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – MPH
Equation – A*.62137
OBD Header – 7E0

Speed Vehicle KPH (PCM)–
PID – 0D – Done Testing –
Long Name (used in menus) – Speed 6.7L (KPH)
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Km/h
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100.0
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – Leave Blank to display Km/h
Equation – A
OBD Header –

Transmission Fluid Temp – TFT
PID – 221e1c – Done Testing
Long Name (used in menus) – Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – TFT
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 100.0
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – °F
Equation – ((SIGNED(A)*256)+B)*(9/80)+32
OBD Header –

Vehicle Pitch
PID – From Phone –
Long Name (used in menus) –
Short Name (used in gauge display) –
Min Value –
Max Value –
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type –
Equation –
OBD Header –

Vehicle Roll
PID – From Phone
Long Name (used in menus) –
Short Name (used in gauge display) –
Min Value –
Max Value –
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type –
Equation –
OBD Header –

Voltage (Control Module)
PID – [42] – Testing – Make Custom
Long Name (used in menus) – Voltage (PCM) 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Volts (PCM) (Volts CM)
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 50.0
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – Volts
Equation – ((A*256)+B)/1000
OBD Header – 7E0

Voltage (OBD)
PID – ff1238 – Testing – make custom
Long Name (used in menus) – Voltage (OBD) 6.7L
Short Name (used in gauge display) – Volts OBD (Volts AD)
Min Value – 0.0
Max Value – 50.0
Scale Factor – x1
Unit Type – Volts
Equation –
OBD Header –

EskimoPie
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Posts: 1
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: July 4, 2014 (GMT)

MPD56, thanks a TON for all of the hard work you’ve put into getting these PIDs correct. I’m sorry, but I need a little remedial education on how to enter some of these. Some seem to enter just fine in the “manage custom OBD2 PIDs” page, but some seem to be different.

For instance: Barometric Pressure (from Torque App) has a PID entry of: PID – 33 – Done Testing – Torque App PID. The App doesn’t seem to like PID 33…

Or another: Accelerator Pedal Position “E” has a PID entry of PID – [4a] – Done Testing – Custom PID. What is a “Custom PID” and how do I enter it?

Do you have a config file that I can just download and import all this directly instead of trying to manually type all of these into my phone?

Sorry… these are probably very stupid questions but I’m very new to Torque.

Thanks!!!!

MPD56
Member
Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: July 4, 2014 (GMT)

I’m new to Torque also. No there very good questions and I didn’t mean to confuse anyone, so your questions might help others. I made changes to the Accelerator E Pedal.

I remove the [] around 4a and hope that it works. Also it really depends on what the resistance reading of the rheostat (Pot) in the pedal is at idle and full pedal to make the equation, with the key on the pedal should read “0” and 100% pushed to the floor, if it doesn’t, then the equation needs to be adjusted for that truck.

As for the Baro, use the Barometric Pressure (from vehicle) that is provided by Torque when adding this display. The reason I posted it, is because some of the other PIDs for Baro don’t work on the 6.7L or show psi. I don’t know how to make that a custom PID yet because the Torque App does some converting of its own depending what you put in the vehicle’s profile?

As far as the file. Once these and other 6.7L PIDs are confirmed working by others, I will contact the Developer and request if he could add them to a Ford 6.7L Predefined PID group like he has for the Ford 6.0. But as you point out, there are some errors that should be cleaned up first.

Thanks for responding

willieboy
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Posts: 1
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: July 10, 2014 (GMT)

How does the DEF REGEN status display? Is it a gauge with 0 and 100, essentially showing on and off? Is it a percent before regen? Is want something the the edge unit that illuminates,etc during regen.

Otherwise, these look great, thanks for the nice list. Does anyone know what the EGT11 pid difference is compared to a preturbo pyrometers?

MPD56
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Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: July 10, 2014 (GMT)

Quote from willieboy on July 10, 2014
How does the DEF REGEN status display? Is it a gauge with 0 and 100, essentially showing on and off? Is it a percent before regen? Is want something the the edge unit that illuminates,etc during regen.

Otherwise, these look great, thanks for the nice list. Does anyone know what the EGT11 pid difference is compared to a preturbo pyrometers?

MPD56
DPF Regen Status you would use the ON/OFF display and when the truck is in Active Regen, the display will turn green and display “ON”, other wise it will display “OFF” and black depending on your theme.

Soot Mass %. When that display shows 100% most likely when other conditions are met the PCM will start an Active Regen.

Soot Mass is in Grams/litre. It uses the same valve from the PCM but the equation is different. It is just a personal choice.

Note that the equations were mostly done by me, so they are relative to me but some could be fine tuned. I’m doing this for self interest and not an Expert. I know enough to know how much I don’t know and this usually scares me.

I Don’t think that the 6.7L has a pre turbo temperature sensor? EGT11 is a post turbo sensor.

MPD56
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Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: August 5, 2014 (GMT)

Sorry I’m just bumping this thread up to keep it active.

If anyone has something to add, please do.

Thanks

allcool1
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Posts: 6
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: August 5, 2014 (GMT)

MPD56 Thanks, nice work you’re doing here.

Ok then… Well guess I installed the predefined PID for the wrong PowerStroke. it was in the app, and said Powerstroke included…

So do each one of these pid need to be individually installed, or is there way to import all of them…?

allcool1
Member
Posts: 6
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: August 5, 2014 (GMT)

Just added your boost6.7 pid… and it seems to work now.

The last line 7EO the app would not take, so I left it out. Is there a problem with that…?

Capp777
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Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: August 5, 2014 (GMT)

Are you using 7E0 (zero)?

allcool1
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Posts: 6
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: August 5, 2014 (GMT)

Quote from Capp777 on August 5, 2014
Are you using a 7E0 (zero)?

No, used a cap O (my bad) and wouldn’t except it, so left it blank. But it seems to work for the short ride I took to test it. Will go on a longer ride and make sure.

MPD56
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Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: August 11, 2014 (GMT)

Folks

Another Torque Pro Fan has put the PIDS into a 6.7L Plugin so that when installed you just pick the PIDS from a list like the Extended Predefined Group. I’ll post the link on the Torque Pro Forum (Link Below).

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1322804-torque-pro-ford-6-7l-extended-pids-3.html#post14573134

Thanks sdetweil

MPD56
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Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: October 20, 2014 (GMT)

I’m bumping it

superdog404
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Posts: 32
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: October 21, 2014 (GMT)

Hi MPD56 – Since you bumped this do you have any 6.7L pids to share with the class?
We got back from our vacation. Had a great time and sure loved using your 6.7L pids thus far.

Thank you
Harold

piemmm
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Posts: 6082
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: October 21, 2014 (GMT)

Apologies for not getting off my posterior to put these into the app (or as a plugin) – are you happy for me to still do this? as I now have time :)

superdog404
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Posts: 32
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: October 21, 2014 (GMT)

Hi piemmm – If your asking me? Yes that would be great.

Thank you
Harold

MPD56
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Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: October 21, 2014 (GMT)

Ian:

Thanks, if you could please help out the 6.7L members it would be Fantastic!!

I know you’re a busy man. I’ve been busy taking care of family and wish I could do more. I’m still addicted to your great App and need to know more. Capp777 has been a great resource to get me to where I am, but I’m still at the bottom of the learning curve.

Thanks for helping the other member (Sdetweil) on the Ford 6.7L with making a plugin.

I wish I had more PID numbers to work on more gauges.

MPD56
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Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: November 15, 2014 (GMT)

Bumping this for the Ford 6.7L folks.

mofks
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Posts: 4
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: April 6, 2016 (GMT)

Just got the software loaded up (newbe) and I’m working on the ford 6.7 I’m looking for PID’s for torque converter locked/unlocked probably a graph) and total run time hours on the engine (digital). this is in ford f550 diesel truck. anybody have anything that works.

thanks

piemmm
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Posts: 6082
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: April 7, 2016 (GMT)

I’ll see if I can get this into the next update cycle – will have a look on the ford sites to see if there have been any further updates since

mofks
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Posts: 4
Post Re: Ford 6.7L Extended PID List
on: April 7, 2016 (GMT)

thanks for the help!

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