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Author	Topic: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs

Capp777

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

* 0.062137 ?

gi1gamesh

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Posts: 51

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

From the dash
km = 298433.3
mi = 185434.2

From the PID
2984333

Capp777

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

Interesting… your dash is wrong
when using conversion factor!

* 0.0621359

gi1gamesh

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

Guess I wont bother using a multiplier of 0.62135894352 I’ll just know the dash is off..

gi1gamesh

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

MPD how are you making out with the MPG?

Capp777

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

Or maybe my pocket reference is wrong?

gi1gamesh

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

If the pocket reference is wrong so is Google

gi1gamesh

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

so.. it seems like speed/fuel rate is pretty erratic. when your on the gas it goes way down and when your off the gas it goes way up is there anyway to slow it down or average it out a bit? or… is there a way to update torque’s builtin mpg to use the custom pids?

gi1gamesh

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

MPD, this is what seemed to produce believable values for fuel rate.

Fuel Rate Liter Per Hour
22f45e
((a*256)+b)/10
unit: L

MPD56

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

Quote from gi1gamesh on May 22, 2015
Current Gear
PID: 221e12
Equation A
Header: 7e1

This one works with header 7e1 as you suggested.

Go figure, I have x1 for the header and it is working.

MPD56

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Posts: 276

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

Quote from gi1gamesh on May 23, 2015
MPD, this is what seemed to produce believable values for fuel rate.

Fuel Rate Liter Per Hour
22f45e
((a*256)+b)/10
unit: L

MPD56 Reply:

Thank you, I’ll try it. It is driving nuts that I can get on other scanners but not be able to do it with Torque.

I’ve been getting a NaN response when using the KPH/LPH.
Equation: [0D]/[22F453]

I’ll play with it tomorrow.

MPD56

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Posts: 276

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

Quote from gi1gamesh on May 23, 2015
Guess I wont bother using a multiplier of 0.62135894352 I’ll just know the dash is off..

I could be wrong? But if I want two displays that read two different units and don’t want Torque to use its conversion by default. I put and “.” after the units

Example:
Speed – mph.
Speed – kph.
Fuel Tank Level – Gals US.
Fuel Tank Level – Gals Can.

Capp777

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Posts: 2993

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

Does ([0d]*0.62137)/([22f45e]*3.785) work
for MPG?

Edited.

gi1gamesh

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

I did something like this..
Fuel Rate L per hour 6.7L, FuelRate, 22f45e, ((a*256)+b)/10, 0, 100, L, , x1
MPG, MPG, , [0d]/(val{Fuel Rate L per hour 6.7L}),0,100, km, , x1

results seem a bit erratic. Sorry for the delay, I thought i had already shared this.

Capp777

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Posts: 2993

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

Does that convert your Liters to Gallons
or MPL?

Dependent on your units setting?

Units km? for MPG which may be converted
based upon your units setting?

Edit:

I noticed MPD56 was using [22F453].
Evap. related in his equation.

gi1gamesh

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Posts: 51

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 23, 2015 (GMT)

it’s output is KM but it depends on defaults chosen in torque mine displays miles because torque default units are set to miles

gi1gamesh

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Posts: 51

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 24, 2015 (GMT)

Here are some additional PIDS to work out if anyone is interested..
Accelerator pedal position D 22F449 %
Barometric Pressure, BARPO 22F433 A kpa
Charge Air Coller Temp Bank1 Sensor2 CACT12 22F477 B-10 C
Charge Air Coller Temp Bank1 Sensor1, CACT11 22F477 A-10 C
EGR Cooler Outlet Temp, EGRT11 22F46B C
EGR Throttle Position Commanded, EGRTP_CMD 22F46A %
EGR Throttle Position Measured, EGRTP_Measured 22F46A %
EGR Cooler Bypass Valve, EGRCBV 22046A %
Fan Speed Desired 220701 rpm
Mass Air Flow A, MAF_A 22F466 gps

gi1gamesh

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Posts: 51

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 26, 2015 (GMT)

Does anyone happen to have the complete list of PIDs for the Ford 6.7 the method I’m using to get them is rather time consuming.

CoreyMS

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Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: August 25, 2015 (GMT)

Quote from gi1gamesh on May 18, 2015
Ok, I think I’ve got this mathematically correct and tested to values along the same curve as the Ford diag manual. What was really throwing me was a couple things.. First the Voltage from the ECU at the sensor is not 5v it’s 4.98 second the calculated internal resistance for what’s coming from the voltage divider is more like 1164.26 not 1kohm as described in the diag manual.

So if you want to use a Ford EGT sensor in the EGR Temp sensor location I would suggest using the following values. This is what worked for my ECU and the EGT sensor out of my exhaust relocated to the EGR block off plate/bung.

PID: 22055E
MIN 0
MAX 2000
scale x1
Unit C
(0.0004*(((1164.26*(((256*A)+B)*0.00097285))/(4.98-(((256*A)+B)*0.00097285)))*((1164.26*(((256*A)+B)*0.00097285))/(4.98-(((256*A)+B)*0.00097285)))))+(1.107*((1164.26*(((256*A)+B)*0.00097285))/(4.98-(((256*A)+B)*0.00097285))))-237.33

I’m trying this and its doing something weird. The gauge shows some type of long string of numbers that do not change. If I go to the ad new gauge screen its showing the same long number, something like 66,172,xxx,xxx

The rear thermistor in the egr spot, I’ve been trying to find this for awhile as well, I was hoping this was the answer.

I’ll look at it more, maybe I’m missing something

gi1gamesh

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Posts: 51

Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: August 25, 2015 (GMT)

Quote from CoreyMS on August 25, 2015

The rear thermistor in the egr spot, I’ve been trying to find this for awhile as well, I was hoping this was the answer.

I’ll look at it more, maybe I’m missing something

Glad to hear someone else is hoping to use this formula for EGT. It took me quite a while to get this figured out. Are you copying and pasting that formula into Torque? it’s quite long and would be pretty easy to miss something while manually typing it in.

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