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Author Topic: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
gi1gamesh
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Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 18, 2015 (GMT)

Quote from MPD56 on May 18, 2015

If I’m getting it right you have a programmer to use the EGR input to the PCM for the pre-turbo EGTs.?

That’s correct, A programmer was used to basically ignore those inputs so I’m just making use of an unused sensor location. The EGR is gone and an EGR block off plate with bung is in it’s place where I’ve installed an EGT sensor from the factory exhaust and plugged it into the EGRT11 sensor location. If I’m not mistaken the plug used was originally connected to the EGR cooler outlet temperature sensor.

Capp777
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Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 18, 2015 (GMT)

Just curious… what kind of temps
are you seeing while driving? how
does it compare to the EGT temps
mentioned in this thread?

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 19, 2015 (GMT)

Quote from Capp777 on May 18, 2015

Just curious… what kind of temps
are you seeing while driving? how
does it compare to the EGT temps
mentioned in this thread?

I’m seeing 212F at startup idle
250 – 300F cruising still warming
450F cruising 35mph engine at temp
1450F+ WOT 0 – 75mph
1500f 0 – 80mph
700F cruising 65 – 70mph

This is on an SCT “extreme” tune with S&B Intake, Sinister Diesel EGR Delete, Mishimoto Intercooler pipe, 4″ Down-pipe back exhaust.

Ambient Temp was 56F

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 20, 2015 (GMT)

CAP Is there a set of standard or common equations I could run values through when I find interesting results?

MPD I’ve got a couple more to try out. Don’t take the formulas as gospel I need some more data before I can feel confident in them. Could you try these out?

DEF Percent 22f485 A/15*100
DEF Level (Liters) 220487 ((A*256)+B)/1000
vref(Volts) 22d127 ((A*256)+B)*(5/5120)
FanSpeed(RPM) 220702 A*100*.25
Odometer(KM) 22404c (A*256)+B

Edit: FanSpeed Calc

MPD56
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Posts: 275
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 20, 2015 (GMT)

Thanks a bunch for sharing. I will try them. Not sure about the FS PID. Trying to find out also why the MPG PID works with OBDLink and not Torque????

Capp777
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Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 20, 2015 (GMT)

Its interesting that voltage is using
the (1/1024) that your EGT V used.
1024 was used in A/D counts in
older vehicles?

For the newer Fords I would guess
ISO based units versus SAE.

RPM type data might be *0.25.

Temperature equations across
different vehicles types Ive seen

A-40 °C
A*(9/5)-40 °F

A-50 °C
A*(9/5)-58 °F

As I mentioned before, Wiki shows some
of the standard OBD pid equations which
might help.

Sorry I cant provide testing as I still drive
an OBDI Jeep and can only use Torque with
family members vehicles.

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 20, 2015 (GMT)

At startup for Fan Speed I was getting 09 0A – 0D For the A value and 00 for the B value so I made an assumption that is would be A*10 I need to collect some more data on this to be sure.

Is there a way to get Torque to output the Hex values rather than the decimal equivalent? I think it would be useful to use it’s logging abilities for honing in on values by going for a ride, recording the data then playing with the output values in excel.

Capp777
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Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 20, 2015 (GMT)

I think you will have to create separate
custom pids for each byte of interest for
logging in decimal.

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 20, 2015 (GMT)

I think I’ll just use something else to log with I just like the convenience and ease with which you can setup the logging and the fact that I don’t need to take a laptop along for the ride. When I was figuring out the Temp sensor I kept hitting the test button and recording the hex on paper. Really hard to do that by yourself and my wife is not real keen on doing any of this sort of stuff with me.

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 21, 2015 (GMT)

I’ve updated the Fan Speed calc in my previous post.

Hear’s a new one for tonight
Current Gear – 226310 – A

gi1gamesh
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Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 21, 2015 (GMT)

TPMS Sensor IDs
22280F Left Front
222810 Right Front
222811 Right Rear
222812 Left Rear
22281A Left Rear inner
222819 Right Rear inner

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 21, 2015 (GMT)

MPD and anyone else interested in more extended diagnostics.. check out forscan.org They’ve got a beta version up that you can try out. I believe it’s time limited so use it and gather whatever info you can from it.

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

How would I get torque to read the last 3 bytes of this and convert it to decimal? I want Torque to read only the 2D898D part. for some reason it doesn’t see it as A,B,C

ati

ELM327 v1.5

>>
atsh720

OK

>>
22404c

7280662404C2D898D

>

Capp777
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Posts: 2859
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

Enter without spaces…

((A < 16)+(B < 8)+C)* ? Equivalent to FFFFFF hex in decimal. Header: 720 Mode/Pid: 22404c Not sure why A, B and C are incorrect.

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

I’m having a similar problem on current gear.

221e12 returns
7e804621e1201
7e904621e1201

The last byte is the current gear. But A returns 0.0

Capp777
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Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

Did you set header for 7E0 or 7E1 for
the specific module of interest?

Edit:

If you get a response from 1E14…

you might try:

((Signed(A)*256)+B)*(0.0625^0.5)

Variables may need revising. (guessing
again).

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

Quote from Capp777 on May 22, 2015

Enter without spaces…

((A < 16)+(B < 8)+C)* ? Equivalent to FFFFFF hex in decimal. Header: 720 Mode/Pid: 22404c Not sure why A, B and C are incorrect. I believe it will be ((A < 16)+(B < 8)+C)*.1 when I can actually get something to show up in A, B and C..

Capp777
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Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

Just curious… this type of equation
has already been used in this thread.
I wonder if the different header is not
letting it work within Torque? You are
obviously are getting a response in
terminal mode.

DPF Distance Since Last Regen used
7E0.

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

Odometer
Header: 720
Pid: 22404c
((A < 16)+(B < 8)+C)*.1 Not sure why the pid didn’t return values the last time the pid works now and the equation works well. Only problem is when it gets converted to miles it’s actually a few miles off from what the odometer displays however KM is dead on.

gi1gamesh
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Posts: 51
Post Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
on: May 22, 2015 (GMT)

Current Gear
PID: 221e12
Equation A
Header: 7e1

This one works with header 7e1 as you suggested.

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