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Author Topic: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDs
79_bronco
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Posts: 18
 Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 26, 2013 (GMT)

Hello,

I’m new hear and am looking for some pids for my 6.7 Powerstroke.

I would really like to see exhaust back pressure, Regen Status, The rest of the EGT Probes, and DPF Soot Level.

Anyone who could point me in the right direction to get the pids myself would be appreciated but I have already tried torque scan and didn’t come up with anything, and the pre-defined powerstroke pids didn’t show much.

Capp777
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Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 26, 2013 (GMT)

MPD56
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Posts: 276
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 26, 2013 (GMT)

First, welcome to the forum.
I had a 79 Bronco for 30 years. I have been testing a few PIDs on a 2013 F350 6.7L but haven’t confirmed how accurate they are. I don’t have all my information with me now but will post when I can confirm they are working. I’m new to this so it’s slow going at best.

These PIDs seem to be working
EOT
ECT
TFT
EGT11
RPM
Etc.

Trying to do the math equations for these PIDs that I found and then test.
TFT – 221E1C
EOT – 22F45C
EGR Temp – 22F46B
Distance since last complete Regen – 22FD8A
DPF Back Pressure (PSI) – 22116C
Ambient Air Temperature – 22F446
Fuel Level – FLV – 22F42F

Capp777
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Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 26, 2013 (GMT)

Do any of the following PIDs respond

220991
220992
2209E2
22c907
22c908
221171
0178
0179

Edit:

Can you post the Torque raw hex data for the equations
you are working on?

Standard temp equation of (A*(9/5))-40 °F
or A-40 °C might work for single byte response.

Standard temp equation of (((A*256)+B)*0.007)-40 °F
or (((A*256)+B)*0.00389)-40 °C for two byte response.

Standard % equation of A*0.39216 as well.

79_bronco
Member
Posts: 18
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 27, 2013 (GMT)

I will try these out tomorrow. I have been looking around on diesel forms for weeks with no success so anything is useful!

79_bronco
Member
Posts: 18
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 27, 2013 (GMT)

I have all of the ones programed in that MPD56 provided and am about to test them.

I found a few more. Can someone tell me how to convert these too?

Also, if anyone has seen any soot level ones, that would be useful.

Exhaust Gas Temperature Bank 1 Sensor 1(Degrees F)
TXD: 07E022F478
RXF: 056206F40778
RXD: 4010
MTH: 000900320000
NAM: EGT

Exhaust Gas Temperature Bank 1 Sensor 2 (Degrees F)
TXD: 07E022F478
RXF: 032100000000
RXD: 1810
MTH: 000900320000
NAM: EG2

Exhaust Gas Temperature Bank 1 Sensor 3 (Degrees F)
TXD: 07E022F478
RXF: 032100000000
RXD: 1810
MTH: 000900320000
NAM: EG3

Exhaust Gas Temperature Bank 1 Sensor 4 (Degrees F)
TXD: 07E022F478
RXF: 032100000000
RXD: 2810
MTH: 000900320000
NAM: EG4

GAUGE TXD RXF RXD MTH NAME Notes
Transmission Fluid Temperature
TXD: 07E1221E1C
0462051E061C
3010
900500020
TFT
Degrees Fahrenheit

Engine Oil Temperature
TXD: 07E022F45C
046205F4065C
3008
00090005FFD8
EOT
Degrees Fahrenheit

EGR Temperature
TXD: 07E022F46B
046245F4066B
3010
00100019FE70
EGR
Degrees Fahrenheit

Distance Since Last Complete DPF Regeneration
TXD: 07E0220434
46205040634
3018
600190000
DIS
Miles

Distance Since Last Complete DPF Regeneration
TXD: 07E022FD8A
046205FD068A
3010
001F01F40000
DIA
Miles (Alternate)

Diesel Particulate Filter
TXD: 07E00322116C
04624511066C
3010
001700C80000
DPF
PSI

Ambient Air Temperature
TXD: 07E022F446
046205F40646
3008
00090005FFD8
AIR
Degrees Fahrenheit

Fuel Level
TXD: 07E022F42F
046205F4062F
3008
006400FF0000
FLV
Percent

79_bronco
Member
Posts: 18
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 27, 2013 (GMT)

Here are all of the pid responses.

[url= http://s970.photobucket.com/user/mgoeres/library/Torque%20PIDs [url]http://s970.photobucket.com/user/mgoeres/library/Torque%20PIDs

Capp777
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Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 27, 2013 (GMT)

from previous postings. Did you try the equations I
suggested earlier?

Torque’s raw hex data doesn’t show the equation being
used at the time. Some of your screen shots like tft didn’t
look like it was using the posted equation from previous

MPD56
Member
Posts: 276
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 27, 2013 (GMT)

I have tried these today and although they matched the readings on my truck’s gauge screen at startup when the truck was cold they both read high but at running temperature I think that they were close.

PID – 221E1C
Long Name – Transmission Fluid Temperature
Short Name – TFT
Min Value – 0
Max Value – 400
Scale Factor – 1
Unit Type – Degrees Fahrenheit
Equation – (((A*256)+B)*(9/80)+32)

PID – 22F45C
Long Name – Engine Oil Temperature
Short Name – EOT
Min Value – 0
Max Value – 400
Scale Factor – 1
Unit Type – Degrees Fahrenheit
Equation – A*(9/5)-38

I don’t know if I can post copyrighted material to convert some MTH to Torque Equations but will try and find the link again to post. I believe that it was a member that posted it on a thread here. The only reason I can think that it is not posted on here or wiki is that it is copyrighted.

I’ve been unable to get the right equation for the DPF to work, but I’m still working on it and will try tomorrow. Also I set my max to 400 simply becuase under normal running conditions I like to see all my readings at half scale, it helps to see things at a glance.

Thanks Capp777

Capp777
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Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

this forum at risk.

Only publicly shared or reversed engineered info should
be posted here I believe.

Edit:

I read this before in early threads… but I am not sure of
the reversed engineered part…

I suggest not posting anything that was not publicly
shared in other forums/sites or on this forum.

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

EOT equation should end with -40 not -38.

The TFT in the screenshot was reporting 0.0
decimal value while the raw data was 00D3 hex.

22116C is not responding according to the
screenshot. What header was used for
the test?

Edit:

The posting for DPF looks like it includes some
extra characters in the pid. Maybe these extra
chars are causing the no response for 22116C.

MPD56
Member
Posts: 276
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

Quote from Capp777 on October 28, 2013

EOT equation should end with -40 not -38.

Capp777 the convertion calls for -38 and matches my truck’s readout, were -40 didn’t? -38 didn’t seem right to me but for some reason it works. Same thing with the TFT (9/80)?? when I got old, I thought 2+2 would still equal 4 LOL.

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

As a new user… I should warn you that Torque’s
equation parser doesn’t work like a calculator with
its math precedence. It is important that parens
be used to set its precedence i.e., (A*(9/5))-40

FFFF – FFD8 = 27 hex = FFFF XOR FFD8
27 + 1 = 28 hex = 40 decimal

Hope this helps…

MPD56
Member
Posts: 276
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

Thanks Capp777:

Don’t mean to be a pain. I’ll try (A*(9/5))-40 for the EOT

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

Quote from MPD56 on October 28, 2013
Thanks Capp777:

Don’t mean to be a pain. I’ll try (A*(9/5))-40 for the EOT

We are learning together!

Thank you for sharing your Torque ‘Test’ raw hex data.

MPD56
Member
Posts: 276
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

Capp777: FYI
This is how I got the 38 for the EOT equation. Not that I know why, I just followed the instructions.

The final four are the trickiest. If you have an F, E, D, C, B, A, 9, or 8 as the first character then you will be subtracting this number. To calculate this, use Windows Calculator again and set it to Hex. Enter the value and click the ‘XOR’ key and enter “FFFE”. Click “=”, then click the decimal button and you will see what value you have to subtract from the equation.

FFD8 > XOR KEY > FFFE = 38

Thanks again

Capp777
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Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

Web search twos compliment. 00010001ffd8 = A-40.
Doc wrong?

MPD56
Member
Posts: 276
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 28, 2013 (GMT)

Quote from Capp777 on October 28, 2013

Web search twos compliment. 00010001ffd8 = A-40.
Doc wrong?

Darn!!
This is going to set my learning curve back.

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2993
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDson: October 29, 2013 (GMT)

Quote from 79_bronco on October 27, 2013
Here are all of the pid responses.

[url= http://s970.photobucket.com/user/mgoeres/library/Torque%20PIDs [url]http://s970.photobucket.com/user/mgoeres/library/Torque%20PIDs

Any chance you have the screenshot for 22F478?

This pid appears to return multiple sensors and the
variables will have to be determined.

79_bronco
Member
Posts: 18
 Re: Ford 6.7 Diesel PIDon: November 7, 2013 (GMT)

Here are a few questions I seen also sorry for the late responses I think I have the email setting set right now.

This is the response for 22F478.

The equation didn’t work for the dpf psi.

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