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Capp777
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Posts: 2917
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 1, 2013 (GMT)

I noticed that your engine coolant temperature
wasnt responding.

You might want to try…

221139 (°C) (A-40)
22114D (Volts)

for a test response and post results.

(KOEO for safety)

Sammy
Member
Posts: 16
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 1, 2013 (GMT)

Will try. I’ve also been working on a custom pid for default vehicle load. Not a lot of success or time put in. Will let you know when I get it.

piemmm
Administrator
Posts: 6122
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 2, 2013 (GMT)

I’m going to put a user wiki up this week (that you guys can register on and play with) – it’s probably going to be a lot more use than digging through forum posts to find this kind of information once it’s been found out and shared. Hopefully you’ll find it useful

I’ll drop a link on the forum once it’s done

Sammy
Member
Posts: 16
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 3, 2013 (GMT)

Sounds real good. If used correctly, will be very useful.
On 22114D what equation should I use?

Capp777
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Posts: 2917
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 3, 2013 (GMT)

The equation for volts needs to be worked
out. I believe it will be a two byte response
and was hoping it could be worked out from
the test responses.

(((A*256)+B)/257)-40 for °C?
((A*256)+B)/13107 for Volts?

Did 221139 respond?

Sammy
Member
Posts: 16
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 3, 2013 (GMT)

221139 (A-40) gave no results. I did have some problems with torque not acting correct on the way home. This usually occurs after using the scanner. I will try again a different night. To fix the glitch I have to restart my phone.
22114dD (A) gave some results then switched to no response and back to a value. I will try that also again.

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2917
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 3, 2013 (GMT)

Thanks for trying. I had found these PIDs
listed online and in this forum. Was hoping
it would work for your truck.

Were the readings from 22114D behaving
like the coolant temp? gradually increasing
as the engine warmed?

Have you tried 22114D without 221139
added due to the issues you mentioned?

Sammy
Member
Posts: 16
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 3, 2013 (GMT)

Just retried it and this time no responses on eather one. I input them seperately.

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2917
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 4, 2013 (GMT)

Thanks for trying.

Sammy
Member
Posts: 16
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 4, 2013 (GMT)

When I test a custom PID and it doesn’t respond with a value. I loose obd2 connection with my reader. Torque is still connected with the reader. To clear this I need to close torque then key off and on, on the truck, then restart torque. Does this sound normal for my truck. (2000 Ford diesel) Without the restart, truck will turn over but not fire.

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2917
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: July 4, 2013 (GMT)

If you search the forum for older posts
on the 7.3… you will find this is a common
problem experienced by other 7.3 owners.

It has been suggested that it is due to
the buggy ecus from that period.

One person posted that his 7.3 cut off while
driving when he went into adapter status
menu.

This is why testing with KOEO for safety
was recommended during testing of PIDs.

sonsalla1
Member
Posts: 5
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: August 18, 2013 (GMT)

You will never be able to read ECT on torque, the ecm doesnt monitor it, the wires go directly from engine coolant temp sensor to gauge cluster. Engine calculates everything off oil temp, as that’s what runs the injectors. The low pressure oil sensor also runs directly to the gauge cluster, no ecm monitoring, just ICP.

Capp777
Member
Posts: 2917
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: August 18, 2013 (GMT)

Is this true for both automatic and manual
transmissions?

Similar thread…

http://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=3854.0

Edit:

Related link…

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f14/how-get-7-3l-coolant-temp-scangauge-ii-xgauge-272365/index2.html

sonsalla1
Member
Posts: 5
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: August 18, 2013 (GMT)

Auto and manual, neither ecm looks at ect or eop, at least in obs trucks.

DJR
Member
Posts: 6
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: September 17, 2013 (GMT)

I have a 2001 7.3 and the extended pids give me pretty much everything I want. The Engine Coolant Temp is only available on a manual where it acts a bit weird. The Automatic version of the 7.3 has trans temp instead.

I am currently monitoring Trans Temp, Injector Control Pressure, Pulse width, injector duty cycle, boost, intake air pressure, RPM, Transmission gear, transmission lockup.

I found these by going into settings, manage extra pids/sensors, hit the menu button and select add predefined set, and then select (Ford (incl powerstroke).

Auto Hobbyist. Currently working on a 7.3 Power Stroke Diesel. I have been working on cars off and on for about 30 years. I am on active duty and I move around a lot so the truck is handy.

Tugly
Member
Posts: 2
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: February 6, 2014 (GMT)

I have worked out most of the PIDs I want (with correct math) and I have set up a night theme that matches my ISSPRO EV2 gauge set. I know a number of people that are looking at Torque Pro and want the configuration I have. I want to export the complete profile, theme, Ford Enhanced PIDs, dash settings – the whole shebang. I can access all the folders and files on my Nexus 7 2013, but the various people importing the configurations will have issues.

Suggestions?

Powerstroke enthusiast

jwt27ta6
Member
Posts: 1
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: February 6, 2014 (GMT)

Quote from Tugly on February 6, 2014
I have worked out most of the PIDs I want (with correct math) and I have set up a night theme that matches my ISSPRO EV2 gauge set. I know a number of people that are looking at Torque Pro and want the configuration I have. I want to export the complete profile, theme, Ford Enhanced PIDs, dash settings – the whole shebang. I can access all the folders and files on my Nexus 7 2013, but the various people importing the configurations will have issues.

Suggestions?

Yes, I would love to try your setup, too.

m j
Member
Posts: 92
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: February 8, 2014 (GMT)

http://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=3903.0

more info here

Tugly
Member
Posts: 2
Post Re: Ford 7.3 pids
on: February 8, 2014 (GMT)

I’m working on the export feature and hacking into the files to figure out how to set up a “7.3L Package”.

Powerstroke enthusiast

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