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SebastianNielsen
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Posts: 3
Post how to specify VW measuring block?
on: November 14, 2022 (GMT)

According to vW service manual, there should be:

09 –> Central Electronics
Measuring block 020 –> 023

Each block contains 4 fields:
1: Field of which sensor was tripped (intrusion)
The first field should be the source itself, and it’s decoded as follows:
; 0 = Driver’s Door
; 1 = Passenger Door
; 2 = Rear Left Door
; 3 = Rear Right Door
; 4 = Rear Lid/Tailgate
; 5 = Engine Hood
; 7 = Trailer
; 9 = Unauthorized Terminal 15
; 10 = Interior Monitoring
; 11 = Inclination Sensor
; 12 = Alarm Horn
; 19 = Power On Reset
; 21 = Central Locking Alarm Delay Drivers Side
; 255 = No Alarm Recognized

2: Date of event (YYYY:DD:MM)
3: Time of event (HH:MM h)
4: Mileage of event (XXXXX km)

If I want to read this with torque pro, how do I specify this as custom PID?

Vasilich
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Posts: 218
Post Re: how to specify VW measuring block?
on: November 15, 2022 (GMT)

First you need to know from what block comes this info – ECU, Body electric, Gauge, etc. This will define block address – those are different on different cars, so to find address of a particular block for your car is an adventure.
Second – you need to know/understand/read from your manual, what OBD mode this request belongs to – mode 1, 2, 22, or any other.
Then you need to form request address for this information, fill as PID in torque pid editor, specify block address there, and test whether you get any information from it except 7F xx xx (7F means tha PID isn’t supported, but at least there is a block that can respond it).
After getting non-negative (no 7F) answer you will need to guess how information is encoded in the answer. as soon as you stuck there – ask here again :)

SebastianNielsen
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Posts: 3
Post Re: how to specify VW measuring block?
on: November 16, 2022 (GMT)

It should be ECU (as its located in 09 – Central electronics), measurement block 020 — 023 (each measurement block contains one alarm activation)

Sadly the VW manual doesn’t specify how to use a standard OBDII scanner, but their own pricey “VAG tool” that cost 400€ for a 3 car license.

The thing here is that crooks have smashed the window on the car and stolen lot of valuable things.
The car is in a multi-tenant garage that requires you to scan an access card to gain access to.

The idea is to pull out the log of alarm activations, and find the exact time the alarm was tripped on the car.
This time can then be given to police, which can request the log of which access card that was scanned shortly before the window was smashed.

Thus enabling prosecuting of the crook.

The adresses should be on a VW car (took the log from a forum):

01-Engine — Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans — Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes — Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle — Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC — Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. — Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio — Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags — Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel — Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments — Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway — Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing — Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer — Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr — Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver — Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist — Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. — Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. — Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake — Status: OK 0000
56-Radio — Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left — Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure — Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. — Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right — Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist — Status: OK 0000

And subadresses should be:

Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 T HW: 1K0 937 049 T*
Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0704
Revision: 00030000 Serial number: 00000000945140
Coding: E5050E060004181E001400001400000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 40854C4A13CC3B41A9-8014

Subsystem 1 – Part No: 1K2 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0401
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 00000

Subsystem 2 – Part No: 1K0 955 559 M Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RegenLichtSens 005 0605
Coding: 00217125
Shop #: WSC 00000

6 Faults Found:
02398 – Control Circuit for Rear Windshield Washer Pump
009 – Open or Short to Ground
00156 – Control Circuit for Windshield Washer Pump
009 – Open or Short to Ground – Intermittent
02401 – Terminal 75x
006 – Short to Plus – Intermittent
01800 – Light Switch (E1)
008 – Implausible Signal – Intermittent
01518 – Bulb for Back-Up Lights; Left (M16)
012 – Electrical Fault in Circuit
00897 – Windshield Washer Pump (V5)
012 – Electrical Fault in Circuit

Armed with this info, maybe you could come up with something?

Also found this:

Measuring block 46 (CENTRAL CONV):
;—————————————————
;
; measuring block information
;
;—————————————————
;
;
001,0,Driver’s door
001,1,Electric window,hall signal,E40 (Specification: auto. open/auto. close/man. open/man. close/close not operated/implausible)
001,2,Electric window,thermal protection,Specification: yes/no
001,3,Child safety,switch,E39 (Specification: yes/no/not installed)
;
002,0,Driver’s door (driver’s switch for electric windows)
002,1,Passenger side,electric window,E81 (Specification: autom. open/autom. close/man. open/man. close/not operated/implausible)
002,2,Rear left,electric window,E53 (Specification: autom. open/autom. close/man. open/man. close/not operated/implausible)
002,3,Rear right,electric window,E55 (Specification: autom. open/autom. close/man. open/man. close/not operated/implausible)
;
003,0,Driver’s door
003,1,Mirror adjustment,switch driver,E43 (Specification: Pos X+/Pos X-/Pos Y+/Pos Y-/not operated)
003,2,Mirror s election,switch driver,E48 (Specification: left/right/fold/not operated)
003,3,Mirror folding,switch,E263 (Specification: released/engaged/not installed)
003,4,Mirror heating,,E231 (Specification: on/off/not installed)
;
004,0,Passenger’s door (electric window)
004,1,Switch passenger,(E107),Specification: autom. open/autom. close/man. open/man. close/not operated/implausible
004,2,Thermal protection,passenger,Specification: yes/no
004,3,Working speed,control switch,F261 (Specification: released/engaged/not installed)
;
005,0,Rear door’s (electric windows)
005,1,Switch rear left,(E52),Specification: autom. open/autom. close/man. open/man. close/not operated/implausible
005,2,Thermal protection,rear left,Specification: yes/no
005,3,Switch rear right,(E54),Specification: autom. open/autom. close/man. open/man. close/not operated/implausible
005,4,Thermal protection,rear right,Specification: yes/no
;
006,1,Supply Voltage,(terminal 30)
006,2,Ignition,,Specification: Terminal 15 on/Terminal 15 off
006,3,S-Terminal,,Specification: operated/not operated
006,4,Speed signal,,Steps: 2 km/h
;
007,1,Central locking,key switch driver,Specification: open/closed/not operated/implausible
007,2,Central locking,key switch pass.,Specification: open/closed/not operated/implausible
007,3,Interior locking,driver switch,E150 (Specification: lock/unlock/not operated/implausible)
007,4,Interior locking,passenger switch,E198 – USA only (Specification: lock/unlock/not operated/implausible)
;
008,1,Hood contact,switch (F120),Specification: operated/not operated/not installed
008,2,Rear lid/tailgate,key switch,E165 (Specification: open/closed/not operated/implausible)
008,3,Rear lid/tailgate,contact switch,F124 (Specification: open/closed)
008,4,Central locking,thermal protection,Specification: yes/no
;
009,0,Central locking feedback
009,1,Driver’s side,,Specification: safe/not safe/locked/unlocked
009,2,Passenger’s side,,Specification: safe/not safe/locked/unlocked
009,3,Rear left,,Specification: safe/not safe/locked/unlocked
009,4,Rear right,,Specification: safe/not safe/locked/unlocked
;
010,0,Rotary latch switches
010,1,Driver’s side,,Specification: 1 = dr. open / 2 = dr. closed
010,2,Passenger’s side,,Specification: 1 = dr. open / 2 = dr. closed
010,3,Rear left,,Specification: 1 = dr. open / 2 = dr. closed
010,4,Rear right,,Specification: 1 = dr. open / 2 = dr. closed
;
011,1,Immobilizer,key recognition,Specification: yes/no/not installed
011,2,Automatic,lock/unlock switch,Specification: operated/not oper./implausible
011,3,Sliding/tilting,sunroof released,Specification: yes/no
011,4,Status,CAN-Databus,Specification: 2-wire
;
012,0,CAN-Databus communication
012,1,Door contr. module,Driver side
012,2,Door contr. module,Passenger side
012,3,Door contr. module,rear left
012,4,Door contr. module,rear right
;
013,1,Rear lid button,rear lid handle,E188/E234 (Specification: not operated/remote switch/lid lever/implausible)
013,2,Rear,first detent,Specification: open/closed/not installed
013,3,Instrument,illumination,Specification: 0…100 %
;
014,1,Permanent code,known,Specification: OK/n.OK
014,2,Code within,effective range,Specification: OK/n.OK
014,3,Algorithm,,Specification: OK/n.OK
014,4,Key number,,Specification: 0…4 (0 = not operated)
;
015,1,Remote control,button,Specification: open/closed/RLR/panic (RLR = rear lid release)
015,2,Interior monitor,sensor (G273),Specification: yes/no/not installed
015,3,Interior monitoring,switch-off (E267),Specification: on/off/not installed
;
016,0,Alarm Source
; 1 = Door Contact Switch Driver Door
; 2 = Door Contact Switch Passenger Door
; 4 = Door Contact Switch Rear Left Door
; 8 = Door Contact Switch Rear Right Door
; 16 = Door Contact Switch Rear Lid/Tailgate
; 17 = Immobilizer
; 18 = Power Supply
; 32 = Engine hood contact switch
; 64 = Ignition (Terminal 15)
; 128 = Interior Monitoring
; 255 = No Alarm Source recognized
016,1,Last source,,See Label File
016,2,2nd last source,,See Label File
016,3,3rd last source,,See Label File
016,4,4th last source,,See Label File

hmm? Any tought?

cintakc
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Posts: 1646
Post Re: how to specify VW measuring block?
on: November 16, 2022 (GMT)

give me an email address that you can write to

SebastianNielsen
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Posts: 3
Post Re: how to specify VW measuring block?
on: November 16, 2022 (GMT)

cintakc: (removed) – contact with cintakc already initiated.

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