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cra
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Post Predefined stopped working
on: October 23, 2021 (GMT)

I downloaded a nice set of predefined ioniq 5 pids.
It all looked good, showing in the list and all.
But i accidently deleted them.
And i Just can’t get them back in…
I deleted Torque/data, reinnstalled, created a new file,
but nothing makes it show in the list!
All the default predefined are showing (like Ford Nissan etc)
Any tips or help is much appreciated :)

piemmm
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Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 23, 2021 (GMT)

Hi!

Which version are you using?
cra
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Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 23, 2021 (GMT)

Hi, latest from play 1.10.120

piemmm
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Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 23, 2021 (GMT)

Thanks – what version of android are you using, is it 12 by any chance?
cra
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Posts: 7
Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 23, 2021 (GMT)

Na, it’s 11 on a samsung s10e.
Funny thing is it, worked fine till i cleared list.
And immediately tried to install them, but they didn’t show.

piemmm
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Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 24, 2021 (GMT)

Hm – it could be related to the storage changes in android 11 and (the forced changes in 12). It’s worth checking that:

* The files are still there – I’ll assume they are.
* That the app has permissions to read the storage on the device still (you may need to go into app settings in android and look at the permissions there to check)

This is changing in the next update (after the android 12 update) anyway as android 12 no longer allows you to simply read the shared storage in a simple way anymore (increases security for android which is good, but a pain in the *** for the developer and some more experienced users).

It will be changing to an ‘import’ and ‘export’ menu item where a system file selector will be displayed instead of the current simple export that is there at the moment.

It would be interesting to see if the app has somehow lost storage permissons on your device – it shouldn’t happen unless you’ve had a cleanup and done it be accident!
cra
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Posts: 7
Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 24, 2021 (GMT)

Nope, app has all permissons still.
Is there a way to restore all settings i torque, back to default?
I did clear all data before reinstalling app, but im not sure it did clear setting..
piemmm
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Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 24, 2021 (GMT)

Hi!

Clearing the settings won’t change anything on being able to see or not see the files to import

For some reason the app can’t see the files on the shared storage (whereas they previously were there). Usually this is because there are not files present if they’re not appearing in the list, or the app doesn’t have permission to access them

the pids should be inside the ‘.torque/extendedpids/’ (all lower case) folder on the shared storage for your device for the app to see them
cra
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Posts: 7
Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 24, 2021 (GMT)

Ahh, maybe i misexplained.
I do see the file i want to import.
But the pids inside the file,
doesn’t show in pids list after i choose
the file..
I can rename file, make a new file with same
Pids inside, al files are showing in the
predefined list, but won’t show in pids list
(after i hit button “clear list”)

Others pids, like the default predefined, like Ford etc are
showing and can be cleared an re installed without issue.

piemmm
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Posts: 6629
Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 24, 2021 (GMT)

Ah, right! – that usually means that there’s something wrong with the CSV file and that the app couldn’t import them – the CSV format may be incorrect somehow so it might be worth comparing against a known good file to spot the issue
cra
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Posts: 7
Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 24, 2021 (GMT)

Yes, I will get more files.
Funny thing is the file worked, until i hit “clear list” button.
I have tried 2 known files, and i had backup file to replace.
i will investigate files, and maybe try building building
a new file in Windows..(instead of total commander on android)

piemmm
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Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 25, 2021 (GMT)

If you have no luck, you could send the file here and I’ll try to see if I can see any issues with the app loading it
davidtm
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Posts: 6
Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 25, 2021 (GMT)

Quote from admin on October 24, 2021
This is changing in the next update (after the android 12 update) anyway as android 12 no longer allows you to simply read the shared storage in a simple way anymore (increases security for android which is good, but a pain in the *** for the developer and some more experienced users).

It will be changing to an ‘import’ and ‘export’ menu item where a system file selector will be displayed instead of the current simple export that is there at the moment.

**When might we see this update after Android 12?
davidtm
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Posts: 6
Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: October 25, 2021 (GMT)

NM. I saw in the other thread (https://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=16077.0) about the new3 file location for the pids, and was able to import them again.
cra
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Posts: 7
Post Re: Predefined stopped working
on: November 7, 2021 (GMT)

It works! Thanks for all good help.
And sorry for slow follow up, work is killing me..
I managed to get the pids in now, i build a new file with notepad on windows. Then i got them in with the new import function.
It all looks good!
Thanks again for incredible fast and helpful respons.

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