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(@whitesnake)
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Hello,

after the latest Updates of Torque I'm VERY happy with this App. It runs everytime I drive with my car and it is my #1 App of all times.

BUT: there is still one thing missing:

A SHIFTLIGHT !

During hard acceleration I cannot look at my revmeter because my eyes has to be looking at the streets. One Chance is to buy a aftermarket-shiftlight, but it's ugly on the dashboard and I don't wan't to drill holes or run cables.

So the easiest way is a Shiftligth within Torque. It could be just a dial that changes to red, when the desired rpm is reached:

I asked Ian to develop one, but he told me, that this would be a good thing for a new Plugin. Because I'm not a rogrammer I can't do this by my own.

But maybe someone else can!

To see how large the need of a shiftlight is, I want to know:

WHO ELSE WANTS TO HAVE A SHIFTLIGHT?

 
Posted : 25/05/2011 12:28 pm
(@timmay)
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Bit of a defeatist attitude you have, programming is not hard :P, go download the Android SDK, have a mess around with the torquescan plugin app and try modify it to make a shift light plug in, Ian posted up all the code for it in a Zip file on this site somewhere.

Heres the Android SDK anyways.

http://developer.android.com/index.html

Is the shiftpoint the same for each gear? If so, all you should need is to pull out the RPM PID, and maximum RPM variable that the user has set in the torque settings.

 
Posted : 25/05/2011 12:39 pm
(@whitesnake)
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Quote from Timmay on May 25, 2011

Is the shiftpoint the same for each gear? If so, all you should need is to pull out the RPM PID, and maximum RPM variable that the user has set in the torque settings.

That would be an easy solution. But the scale of the Dial for engine rpm is not so readable, if you have an "uneven" value for max. RPM.

Let's say, you have a max. rpm of 6.700 rpm.
Then the dial would have a scale of 1.3/2/2.7/3.3/4/4.7/5.4/6/6.7 x 1000 rpm. That's ugly.

Better to set the max. rpm to the next full 1000 rpms. This would give you a much more readable dial.

But then, you have to have an extra setting for Shift-RPM somewhere in the software.

 
Posted : 25/05/2011 12:59 pm
(@timmay)
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I'm with ya, Another variable to store the shiftlight point is no real hassle either.

 
Posted : 25/05/2011 1:15 pm
(@sdirkx)
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Would be a nice option. But no plans to add this function yet?

 
Posted : 09/06/2011 1:54 pm
(@whitesnake)
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Ping!

 
Posted : 10/06/2011 11:23 am
(@jesterxhead)
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I dont know about you guys but....

other than looking pretty a shift light on torque may not be a good option....

1. latency the bluetooth interface only reads so fast after the computer digests the information, then its processed thru the phone.

It may not be a good idea because you would be past the "shift point" well after the light illuminates.

I had this issue a while back running a shift light on my drag car. the autometer tach was reading off of the oem signal. but that was way too slow not even mentioning running it thru a phone. I ran it straight off my ignition.

What I am getting at shift lights to actually be functional must be VERY accurate. having it on torque IMHO will be a complete waste of time.

I dont think ian wants to hear stories that your motor blew up because the shift light didnt come on EXACTLY the right moment...

not to be johnny rain cloud but hope this helps...

 
Posted : 12/06/2011 3:20 am
(@admin)
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It should work okay.

I needs to be a plugin as you really don't want to be pulling any other info other than the RPM. but at up to 24PIDs/second read speed on some vehicles (usual about 17/sec) there should be more than enough speed to be able to do this

Just make sure you have a decent adapter 🙂

 
Posted : 12/06/2011 6:02 am
(@jesterxhead)
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Oh it will work ok...but still not fast enough at all.....

The only way to be truly fast enough is wired direct to the ignition.

thats just my .02 I dont want to tell ya guys that I told ya so...engines are expensive....

 
Posted : 12/06/2011 11:10 am
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Well, at 17Hz, you have readings every 58milliseconds. Thats usually faster than you can react 😉

 
Posted : 12/06/2011 4:55 pm
(@whitesnake)
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@JESTERxHEAD: I totaly see you point. But the Torque-App won't be used by hardcore dragracers, but rather from normal people in normal cars. And there you have the enginge speed limiter. So the engine should be fine under all circumstances.

But a shiftlight could be very usefull for me. Because under normal streetrace or redligth-race conditions, my eyes has to be on the street and not on the dashboard. And I'm such a bad racer that I really cannot tell, if the engine is running with 5.000, 5.500 or 6.000 rpm.

Markus

 
Posted : 13/06/2011 9:24 am
(@jesterxhead)
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Quote from whitesnake on June 13, 2011
@JESTERxHEAD: I totaly see you point. But the Torque-App won't be used by hardcore dragracers, but rather from normal people in normal cars. And there you have the enginge speed limiter. So the engine should be fine under all circumstances.

But a shiftlight could be very usefull for me. Because under normal streetrace or redligth-race conditions, my eyes has to be on the street and not on the dashboard. And I'm such a bad racer that I really cannot tell, if the engine is running with 5.000, 5.500 or 6.000 rpm.

Markus

well sure....in your case it will work just fine.....

btw...you shouldnt race on the street thats for kids. do it on the track.

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 1:40 am
 Gian
(@gian)
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Hello guys,
This is a wery good idea.
I suggest also the same function for low RPM with another color.
Also up arrow and down arrow inside the indicator will be appreciate.
Min and Max RPM should be programmable to adapt the driving.
This could save gasoline.
Regards.

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 7:11 am
 Gian
(@gian)
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More.
Also two different bips with the lights should be fine.
I hope Ian read this topic.

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 5:00 pm
(@admin)
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The rate of change could be used to predict the 'rev' limit somewhat, coupled with being able to access the 'latency' that your paticular ECUAdapter installation has. I'll see about giving access to that in the API in the next couple of versions

(yes, I do read the topic, but I won't be doing this plugin, it's an ideal starter project for anyone wanting to learn android) 🙂

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 5:28 pm
(@whitesnake)
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Quote from admin on June 14, 2011
(yes, I do read the topic, but I won't be doing this plugin, it's an ideal starter project for anyone wanting to learn android) 🙂

That is really too bad. Now I'm so sad.
I doesn't seem that someone is or will working on that.

So I'm forced to buy a Raptor Shiftlight or something similar and do all the wiring.

Is there no one, who will do this, maybe for money? 🙂

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 8:55 pm
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