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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10969</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 12:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Same here:( never worked, and accelerated to 160 km.h...

Hope this can be fixed :)


EDIT: whoops didnt see page two:p]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Same here:( never worked, and accelerated to 160 km.h...

Hope this can be fixed :)


EDIT: whoops didnt see page two:p]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>rindiesel</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10967</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 03:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Ah.  I have a couple of comments after reading this thread.  First of all, if the timers are using the OBD ECU speed, those of us using different tires will need to have an adjustment factor...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Ah.  I have a couple of comments after reading this thread.  First of all, if the timers are using the OBD ECU speed, those of us using different tires will need to have an adjustment factor.  There a re a couple of ways this could be handled.  The uses could input the stock tire size and the "as used" tire size, or Torque could use GPS to learn the the difference.  All it would take is a low pass filter with a time constant of several minutes or so.

Also, it seems that my best times are lost after I exit Torque.  I'd like Torque to remember my top 5 or so.

Thanks for a great product.

geosynch]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10966</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 01:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Timers working for me as well. Will report back on HP and torque when I get a chance as well.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Timers working for me as well. Will report back on HP and torque when I get a chance as well.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10962</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 13:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[tested update, 0/60 &amp; 0/100 now working didnt get a chance to test the rest. hp now working too. 
thank you 
keith]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[tested update, 0/60 &amp; 0/100 now working didnt get a chance to test the rest. hp now working too. 
thank you 
keith]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>keith99</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10959</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi

Found the problem a new version is uploading now, fixes for mph/kph units problem and the HP/Torque/0-60/etc reading being faulty.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi

Found the problem a new version is uploading now, fixes for mph/kph units problem and the HP/Torque/0-60/etc reading being faulty.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>piemmm</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10958</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 09:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Checked it and it appears to be a bug. Also units appear to not be updating correctly as well.

A fix will be out sometime today, sorry about this.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Checked it and it appears to be a bug. Also units appear to not be updating correctly as well.

A fix will be out sometime today, sorry about this.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>piemmm</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10957</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 08:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Okay could be a bug then - I&#039;ll have a look at that today.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Okay could be a bug then - I'll have a look at that today.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>piemmm</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10956</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 21:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I too have this bug. I have accelerated hard past 60 and on to 80 and still it won&#039;t register a time, or a distance.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I too have this bug. I have accelerated hard past 60 and on to 80 and still it won't register a time, or a distance.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>keith99</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10955</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I think there are two separate discussions here.

Related to the reported bug:
By all means of speed reference, I have been unsuccessful in getting the above listed widgets to work. The t...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I think there are two separate discussions here.

<b>Related to the reported bug:</b>
By all means of speed reference, I have been unsuccessful in getting the above listed widgets to work. The timing widgets do not go to an X during shifts, they go to an X when I let off the gas after passing 70 mph by all sources of speed data.

It appears that the start conditions work properly (vehicle stopped results in widgets saying “Ready”). It appears that the invalidate conditions work properly (not failing during reasonably quick shifting, failing when letting off the gas). What does not appear to be working is the successful end conditions (the 60 mph test does not complete when getting past 60, the 100 kph test does not complete when passing 100 kph, the 1/8 and 1/4 mile tests do not complete when passing 1/8 or 1/4 miles. I have also never seen the torque or HP widgets work at all.

So it seems that whatever is causing the timing widget to fail is related to the successful end conditions. What parameters go into that? Does it make assumptions about on-board phone sensors, such as accelerometers? Does it make assumptions about receiving data from PIDs that may not be present on all vehicles?

<b>Unrelated to this bug:</b>
My speedometer is digital and reads exactly what the OBD speed parameter reads (rounded to an integer value, of course). It is, the OBD speed that is in error. The PCM determines speed by counting wheel revs and converting it to speed using a stored “revolutions per mile”. As far as I can tell, this can only be changed by the dealer flashing the PCM on my car. I ran a few numbers on tires I have had installed on this vehicle. The variability in reported speed due to tire wear is nearly 2.5-3%. With this taken into account it seems that at best my OBD speed is off by 4% and at worst off by 7%.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: HP, Torque, and Other Bugs</title>
                        <link>https://torque-bhp.com/community/torque-discussion-ideas/hp-torque-and-other-bugs/#post-10954</link>
                        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 04:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m afraid I have to disagree regarding the OBD speed.

The OBD speed as reported from the ECU is always well within 1% of the actual speed when measured from GPS (though this is not the c...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm afraid I have to disagree regarding the OBD speed.

The OBD speed as reported from the ECU is always well within 1% of the actual speed when measured from GPS (though this is not the case if you have different diameter wheels on the vehicle to standard).

All the diagnostics in the car read the <i><b>actual</b></i> values, not 5% higher and not 5% lower. Otherwise there is no use in having a diagnostic interface.

The over-reading speedometer <b>is</b> deliberate. This is standard through nearly every manufacturer. It is done at the dial end and can be changed by the dealer. To save any ambiguity on the matter, Torque uses the direct, un-tampered with, actual value delivered direct from the ECU for speed measurements.

I will have another look at the 0-60 code just in case there is a bug, however the only reason why a run would be invalidated (with an 'X') would be due to significant deceleration, or not reaching the required speed to provide accurate readings.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://torque-bhp.com/community/main-forum/">Torque main forum</category>                        <dc:creator>piemmm</dc:creator>
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