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(@raventbk)
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I've been testing the free version of Torque ever since my BT OBD dongle arrived from China yesterday.

I've managed to find a lit of Ford PIDs that I'd like to use some of them on my 2003 Ford Crown Victoria. Obviously the ones for supercharger and such wont work, but theres a few, like tranny temp, torque converter lock up %, etc that I would love to be able to use (and I know is supported on my model year, ala ScanGauge2)

I attempted to simply insert the PIDs into the PID editor, but I'm obviously doing something wrong, as there is no data returned.

Is there any specific way to add these enhanced PIDs into the editor? Or maybe have them integrated into Torque like the ones for your Grand Prix?

http://cumquat.ath.cx/FordPIDhtm.htm

I also found this, that has a bunch of data...dont know if its any use to you though. The section of Ford PWM is what I'm most interested in seeing added. 😉
http://www.scangauge.com/support/pdfs/XGAUGE.pdf

Thx!

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Posted : 02/06/2010 10:52 pm
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Hi

The first list is pretty close to what is required, It's just missing the formulae section so i can interpret the received data (it should look something like (A / B * 65))

Without that extra bit of info I'd need access to the vehicle to be able to reverse engineer the responses into useful information for Torque

For reference, there is a pretty good table at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OBD-II_PIDs

which shows you what I'm trying to explain in terms of formula

 
Posted : 03/06/2010 5:40 am
(@arrakis)
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Hello, in the previous link,The probe BARO is defined by PID 1127

BARO  	1127  	Barometric Pressure (may be software determined) Hz  	Hz

Does that mean that i must enter 01 1127 in Torque like it is describe in example for speed ?01 OD

 
Posted : 14/06/2010 3:12 pm
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Almost, the pid you would enter should most likely be '1127' (Mode 11, PID 27), however that list in the link above is not concise enough as it does not give you how many bytes are returned, or the conversion forumula to get a sensible value out

eg: there is no 'A + (B < 8)' kind of formula given so you can parse the result. So you would have to spend time guessing

Ian

 
Posted : 14/06/2010 7:54 pm
(@arrakis)
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Ok.

I find a file with more information (including the formula) but during the first try, that doesn't work.

The file seems to give directly the PID (without the mode) : 1147 is not 'mode 11' + 'pid 47' but directly 'pid 1147'

When i had '01', to specify the access mode, the ECU seems to understand and reply a value. if not, ecu doesn't respond (on my Focus RS).

I also need some extra information for some formula like that :

(BIT 1 = 1-ON 0-OFF) - 1667 ACPM-A/C HEAD MEDIUM PRESSURE SWITCH INPUT
 
Posted : 14/06/2010 8:53 pm
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(@arrakis)
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I found it, but it's seems that some formula are false.

there is some '?' in the file like that :

(A*2.996)??? = -256-254 DEGREE F - 1139 ECT-ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE INPUT DEGREE F

or that

A = 0-255 FT LBS - 2214? OR 1400 TORQUE-NET ENGINE TORQUE FTLBS

 
Posted : 18/06/2010 6:23 am
(@raventbk)
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Just wanted to bump this one again. It seemed to be going so well for a bit...

If I knew what I would need to do, I'd start poking around.

 
Posted : 20/07/2010 1:36 am
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Ah, had forgotten this (thanks for the bump). The "Scaling for enhance..." has some useful info in that'll let me implement some of the extended Ford PIDs for you.

I'll see if I can get on this and maybe have something by the weekend, thanks

 
Posted : 20/07/2010 6:12 am
(@black306)
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Any chance Ford PIDs will be added in a future update?

 
Posted : 11/08/2010 3:14 am
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i also have a ford pid question. i am trying to get my iat2 sensor to work on my 2003 mustang cobra. the pid i have found online is 16a8 but i cant seem to get it to work. what can i do to get this to function?

i found the formula on one of the website provided above
((A-128)*256)+(B) = -32512-32512 DEGREE F - 16A8 IAT2-INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE SENSOR 2 INPUT DEGREE F

but i write out the formula and it says check parentheses
can you provide any help? if i remove some parentheses i am told the equation is invalid

and would the hex code to put in be 0116a8?

i have the paid version of torque
thanks a lot

 
Posted : 14/08/2010 7:46 pm
(@scorched03)
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a little bump for possible assistance

 
Posted : 20/08/2010 12:15 pm
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