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JESTERxHEAD

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Posts: 37

Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: May 28, 2011 (GMT)

Ok here goes….

Anyone with a 6.0L diesel powerstroke will be able to use these extended PIDs.

Please test these out and share with the class on what values you get.

Dont beat me up on the formulas I kept them simple for testing.

FICM Main Power
FMP
PID: 2209D0
Unit: Volts
Max/Min: 50/0
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*(100/256)/100

FICM Logic Power
FLP
PID: 2209CF
Unit: Volts
Max/Min: 50/0
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*(100/256)/100

FICM Vehicle Power
FVP
PID: 2209CE
Unit: Volts
Max/Min: 50/0
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*(100/256)/100

Fan Speed Sensor
FAN
PID: 22099F
Unit: RPM
Max/Min: 1000/0
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*(1/4)

Injection Control Pressure
HPOP
PID: 221446
Unit: PSI
Max/Min: 5000/0
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*(57/100)

Fuel Pump Duty Cycle
FPDC
PID: 221672
Unit: %
Max/Min: 100/0
Equation: A*100/128

Torque into Torque Converter
TC TQ
PID: 2209CB
Unit: Lb-Ft
Max/Min: 1000/0
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*(1/1)

Engine Oil Temp
EOT
PID: 221310
Unit: Deg. F
Max/Min: 300/0
Equation: ((((A*256)+B)/100)+40)*(9/5)+32

Injector Timing at BTDC
INJ BTDC
PID: 2209CC
Unit: Deg.
Max/Min: 15.0/0
Equation: (((A*256)+B)*(10/64))/10

I will submit more tonight when I get home.

JESTERxHEAD

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Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: May 28, 2011 (GMT)

The Injector timing at BTDC needs some work. today its not working right….

piemmm

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Posts: 6629

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: May 29, 2011 (GMT)

brilliant! – added most of those to the predefined lists (excluding btdc)!

piemmm

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Posts: 6629

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: May 30, 2011 (GMT)

Found a few more on the net. These may be more generic than just powerstrokes. I know someone was looking for a ‘current gear’ PID for Fords:

“Battery Voltage”,
“VBatt”,
“221172”
“A”,
“Auto”

And

“Current Gear”,
“Gear”
“2211B3”
“A”,
“Auto”

Would be interesting to know if the current gear works. Both equations are just ‘A’

JESTERxHEAD

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Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: May 30, 2011 (GMT)

I have current gear on my phone…

the equation is actually

A*(1/2) to read correctly.

I’ve been lazy with this weather has been kinda nice out and there is fishing to be done

JESTERxHEAD

Member
Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 1, 2011 (GMT)

VGT Duty Cycle
VGT
PID: 22096D
%
Max/Min: 100/0
((A*256)+B)*(100/32767)

FUEL LEVEL
FUEL
PID: 2216C1
%
Max/Min: 100/0
((A*256)+B)*(100/328)

I am still testing more but those two work well….

More to come!

JESTERxHEAD

Member
Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 3, 2011 (GMT)

This one was fun to figure out….

good to know how much fuel you are using while idling/running PTO drive etc. on the 6.0L not sure if it works for any other motor from ford.

Volume Fuel Desired
221411
VFD
0.0
50.0
x.1
GPH (gallons per hour)
((((((A*256)+B)*(100/16)/10)*8)*3600)*3785411.78)
AUTO

JESTERxHEAD

Member
Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 3, 2011 (GMT)

For diagnosing a failed fuel injector not so much for gauges to read on a daily basis. digital gauge reads best and the value should be zero at all times except for a misfire count.

CYL #1 Cumulative Misfires
22160E
1CM
0.0
100.
X1
MISFIRES
((A*256)+B)

CYL #2 Cumulative Misfires
22160F
2CM
0.0
100.
X1
MISFIRES
((A*256)+B)

CYL #3 Cumulative Misfires
221610
3CM
0.0
100.
X1
MISFIRES
((A*256)+B)

CYL #4 Cumulative Misfires
221611
4CM
0.0
100.
X1
MISFIRES
((A*256)+B)

CYL #5 Cumulative Misfires
221612
5CM
0.0
100.
X1
MISFIRES
((A*256)+B)

CYL #6 Cumulative Misfires
221613
6CM
0.0
100.
X1
MISFIRES
((A*256)+B)

CYL #7 Cumulative Misfires
221614
7CM
0.0
100.
X1
MISFIRES
((A*256)+B)

CYL #8 Cumulative Misfires
221615
8CM
0.0
100.
X1
MISFIRES
((A*256)+B)

As always more to come….

please if anyone uses these please reply back to tell me what you got….

JESTERxHEAD

Member
Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 3, 2011 (GMT)

Ok here are more…

Injection Pressure Regulator Duty Cycle
221434
IPR
0.0
100.0
x1
%
(A*13.53)/35
AUTO

REVISED:

Injection Timing BTDC
2209CC
INJ
-50.0
50.0
X1
DEG.
((A*256)+B)*(10/64))/10
AUTO

piemmm

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Posts: 6629

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 3, 2011 (GMT)

Don’t blame you if the weather is good

I’m curious about the ‘Battery Voltage’ PID at the moment – on a standard Ford(car) in the UK, the equation needs to be (A / 16) to read correct values – would be interesting to know if that’s the case for you as well, just to check that there are no nasties like scaling changing between different types of Ford (I’m wondering how generic some of these PIDs are)

Ian

JESTERxHEAD

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Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 3, 2011 (GMT)

Sure! I will look into that…

I dont have my phone with me right now to see what I am using….

JESTERxHEAD

Member
Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 4, 2011 (GMT)

Battery Voltage
VBatt
221172
0.
16.0
(A/16)
AUTO

Yes Ian that works flawless…..

dwalthers

Member
Posts: 3

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 15, 2011 (GMT)

Quote from JESTERxHEAD on June 1, 2011
VGT Duty Cycle
VGT
PID: 22096D
%
Max/Min: 100/0
((A*256)+B)*(100/32767)

FUEL LEVEL
FUEL
PID: 2216C1
%
Max/Min: 100/0
((A*256)+B)*(100/328)

I am still testing more but those two work well….

More to come!

I tried the Fuel Level But got a reading of like 17,000. Something amiss in the formula.

JESTERxHEAD

Member
Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 17, 2011 (GMT)

Me bad…. the correct formula for fuel level is…

((A*256)+B)*(1/328) Try that it should work (It does for me!)

dwalthers

Member
Posts: 3

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 20, 2011 (GMT)

Not sure what I am missing. I made the adjustment to the formula but still get 199.8% on less than half a tank. This is an ’04 Ford Diesel 6.0. Thanks for the quick response.

The other thing I am seeing with coolant temp and trans temp using the new half gauge is that while it that the gauge is calibrated for degrees centigrade and the read out is in degrees Fahrenheit. Not sure how to get the gauge to calibrate to a 0 to 350 degree setting in F. Is shows -47 to 222.

Adding an image on the gauges for coolant and trans. Compare to the Oil temp on the right which works.

JESTERxHEAD

Member
Posts: 37

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: June 20, 2011 (GMT)

hmmmmmm…..Not too sure about the fuel level gauge when you fill your tank can you give me that value you are getting and I will try to work that from there…interesting it works just fine for me…

bout the half gauges yea I get deg. C on the min/max when the gauge reads deg. F….so I’m not too sure what’s going on with that either it just may read off of raw values “before” being corrected.

bcraig69

Member
Posts: 1

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: August 24, 2011 (GMT)

This stuff looks supercool. Still a bit over my head. What is the latest on how this app works with the powerstroke 6.0 Are the pids for EOT and ECT working and accurate?
I’m thinking about buying the adapter and the app and giving it a try.

amdriven2liv

Member
Posts: 117

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: September 26, 2011 (GMT)

Quote from JESTERxHEAD on June 20, 2011
hmmmmmm…..Not too sure about the fuel level gauge when you fill your tank can you give me that value you are getting and I will try to work that from there…interesting it works just fine for me…

Hey Jester, I think I have seen you on another forum. I have been heavily into SGII. Now that I have finally moved to a smart phone, which starts tomorrow, I will really be interested in this app. This is the first I have started to look at this app, so I’ll be doing a lot of catching up.

This looks like fun!

Northwest United States

bigscrb15

Member
Posts: 2

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: September 27, 2011 (GMT)

I have been looking for something like this for a long while! I am surprised I havent seen links on powerstroke.org or any other diesel forums… What bluetooth dongle are yall having luck with on the powerstroke? Thanks!! Once I order my adapter I will definitely be contributing here as I look into other parameters to be measured….

amdriven2liv

Member
Posts: 117

Re: Ford 6.0L Diesel Extended PIDS
on: September 28, 2011 (GMT)

Fan Speed Sensor
FAN
PID: 22099F
Unit: RPM
Max/Min: 1000/0
Equation: ((A*256)+B)*(1/4)

On my SGII the readings from it for FSS goes as high as 3500 rpms. That is what I saw while pulling my trailer. Should your Max be higher?

Northwest United States

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